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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 10/15/2007 12:01:37 AM   
    michou41a


     

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    oups here my 42% Cub J3, sorry, now my 42% Decatlon wing

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 10/15/2007 2:19:58 AM   
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    Hey Michel,
    that's not fair, while we mortals build half of a stab you build a whole bunch of 42% scale models!!!
    You make whatever we dream of building being dwarfed by those planes...

    Hey, just kidding, congrats on those projects. I envy you, in the good sense.

    Marcus
    P.S. took the Electric Mutley to fly but in windy conditions it's scary, and I don't like to fly fullpower all the time, could damage the motor.
    So I decided to put a gasser back into it, traded in a 3W24 that's just right for the plane. Will build a lighter plane for the E-Motor.


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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 10/15/2007 2:33:15 AM   
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    Hello Marcus ;-) we have fun on those big one.....15 feet wingspan

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/4/2007 12:53:30 PM   
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    here my 42% Decathlon

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/4/2007 3:05:29 PM   
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    Michael, that is an interesting drawing. It almost looks like the wing is under cambered and the vertical tail is exaggerated.

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/5/2007 12:38:59 PM   
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    Ken,
    that's an optical illusion. The wing profile is semi-symmetrical, however, since the fuselage sides incorporate both the wing root and both front and rear window frames, when you don't draw the profile on that part, it looks like it goes all the way to where the window frame ends, and because of that shape it looks like undercambered, specially when looked from that angle. That illusion is enhanced by the small cutouts for the former aligning tabs, which look as if they were spar cutouts.
    In fact, the wing profile ends at approx. half of the rear window, exactly at the point where the upper line has a small bend to form the slight bow of the rear deck...
    Although Michel's drawing is based on the EMHW Design, if you look at my design you'll see the same illusion, possibly even at WH's - provided the profile isn't drawn yet on the window frame.
    Just look at the picture below...take a special look at the second fuse, standing in the rear - there you see only the window frame almost identical to Michel's drawing...on the second picture the profile is drawn, and the illusion disappears.
    As for the rudder, although it looks oversided, it's possible also an illusion due to the isometric perspective.

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/5/2007 12:43:18 PM   
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    I just took Michel's drawing and drew the profile on it, the illusion is gone!

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/5/2007 12:52:41 PM   
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    Michel, since you're investing so much time and effort into this design, may I make a small suggestion: please correct the instrument dashboard outline, it's not bowed like the EMHW design, but almost rectangular with rounded corners, as per the pic below...otherwise it's a beautiful design, and I look forward to see it in real...
    sorry I'm being the scale cop again, but that's immediately eyecatching...the first pic is of my Bellanca style model (as is the 3rd. pic, of the fullsize PP-ZPA I modeled), the others of fullsize ACA models.
    Marcus

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/6/2007 1:06:58 AM   
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    Thanks, I understand now.

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/6/2007 1:15:36 PM   
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    Ken, I was sure you had understood it already, I just wanted to make sure others who read this understand the issue as well...
    how's the Waco doing?

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/6/2007 2:25:57 PM   
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    Marcus, i bought the company who design and produce 33 and 40% Wacos kits, everything is in place to the next 10 run of 33% kits.

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/6/2007 3:00:26 PM   
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    Marcus, on the Waco, the fuselage, both wing center sections and one wing panel are complete. Just finished another 3D electric EPP foamie.

    Michael, what's the name of the company?

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    RE: Hostetler 33% Decathlon - 11/7/2007 8:00:30 PM   
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    Hai all,

    Long time no speak !

    My garage aka hangar still is not finished yet . . . .. so the Decathlon project had to be postponed.
    But in the meanwhile I fly some "from-a-distance- look-a-like", a modified Rascal 110 with RotoMotor 35ccm engine and in-fuselage expansion-pipe.

    Some pictures (starting at the top of following page-link):
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152028&page=6#post8357035

    Best regards from the Netherlands,

    Rick

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