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New speed plane - 1/19/2005 7:22 AM   
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RE: New speed plane - 1/19/2005 9:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow looks really good. Keep us posted on your progress. Oh yeah make some videos on first flight to, we all love videos!


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RE: New speed plane - 1/19/2005 4:56 PM   
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Holy C____ppppppppppppp


With that setup, you will want to run smaller diameter/higher pitch props. Keep the P factor to a minimum and the frontal area down.

You may want to start with the 8.8x9.5 apc racing props, and clip them down to 8" dia.

(I showed the photo to Dub, he said the same thing about the props - smallest diameter you can find/make)

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RE: New speed plane - 1/19/2005 8:54 PM   
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I am the lucky recipient of this radical machine.I spoke to Dub about it when I ordered the second engine.Dave makes some kick-butt dusts.The last one he made me ws a clipped wing,all sheeted with a JettFIRE 50.200 mph all day long.We're looking for 250 out of this.I'm stoked!!Here's a pic of the last one.I sent it to you a while back for the gallery.We'll keep you guys posted.Dave made it the same platform as his monster dust,which flies wonderfully.
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RE: New speed plane - 1/19/2005 10:12 PM   
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Status: online 		Looks cool Erik! Can't wait to see it burning up the skys over our field (Buc-le) this summer! Mark and I are both building whiplashes, and I still have my Diamond Dust...although the K&B is pretty much worn out...

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RE: New speed plane - 1/19/2005 10:44 PM   
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cant wait to see how it works out!

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 1:16 AM   
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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 1:37 AM   
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Ho-Hum, another slow "Speed plane"

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Ignore those Canadians they allways loose something in their metric conversions.

and thier football fields have a 55 yard line whats up whith that????

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 3:14 AM   
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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 3:16 AM   
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Haha!! that is about the best Oxymoron I heard yet!!

Yeah we done seen the gliders. But these slow speed planes we are looking at fit perfectly in the Extreme PROP-plane forum

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 4:12 AM   
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Ed,
As far as a glider holding the "official"speed record, BFD!! If you don't think jet guys have already broken the 300mph barrier, then you need to crawl out from under your rock. My bud Dave is building me a kick-ass twin dust, and it's gonna haul the mail!! Why don't you go fly your glider and whine on someone else's thread.
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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 5:01 AM   
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My bud Dave is building me a kick-ass twin dust, and it's gonna haul the mail !!
Why don't you go fly your glider and whine on someone else's thread.
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OOOOH... A real speed expert. What speed will you claim for this one?

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 5:58 AM   
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Let me tell you alittle about myself.I have a B.S. in Aeronautical Science.I've been flying R/C for approx. 30 yrs.I am a turbine waiver holder,and a CD.I can build just fine.My family and my job take up most of my time,and I'm lucky enough to have nice friends to help me.Oh yeah,I also fly jets for a living.In fact I get some layovers in Toronto,and a few other fine Canadian cities. I'm going to end it now. I suggest that you and I discuss this face to face at the first convenient time.
In fact,I will bid a YYZ layover,so we can make that happen. Anytime!!! It is a very little man that needs to make himself feel important by putting down or insulting others.You have shown what kind of person you are,and this will be my last response to you.(Other than in person).I'm pretty sure my twin dust will be a wonderful,FAST airplane.I am sure I will enjoy it immensely. And remember, I'm available for a face to face anytime. Now go kick your dog.
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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 6:25 AM   
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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 6:35 AM   
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On one of your posts above you mentioned that you had a sheeted DD. I am about to build my next DD and been thinking about sheeting the wings also. My question is what thickness sheeting was used and was there much of a difference in weight or could you not really tell?

Reason I wanted to do mine was to avoid some of the pin holes during landings that sometimes keep my plane grounded for rest of the day. Also to me I would think that the covering maybe ripples in the air when moving fast. I don't know since I never seen how it looks while moving. But I like the idea of sheeting.


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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 6:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		On a lighter note, made some progress today thanks to the snow in the Northeast (i work outside), add the sheer webing, clip the wing so that the wingspan is 36" and the length is 50" also installed some of the top sheeting. If all gos well by the end of the weekend should be ready for covering. later dave

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 6:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay ignore my last post. I miss understood and thougt you was talking about the DD in the picture having the sheeted wings.

OOPS! My bad... Its been a long day


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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 6:48 AM   
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I can tell you my experence with sheeting Dust like planes, if you look at my last post you can see at the joints of the basa sheets Ill glue a strip on the sheet set to attach the next, sometime must trim the out eage to coform with the taper od the wing. Weight is not a essue the glue proplble weighs more the the basa. dave

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 6:58 AM   
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Status: online 		Looks like good, clean fun to me! Hey, If I was given a choice between a 260 mph glider and a plane with a pair of JETT 50s, I'll take the one with the noisemakers. It sure is childish for some yahoo to chime in here, trying to rain on the parade.....you never know what you'll run into while reading these threads Let's give that guy a big,"OINK" and a nice "parting gift"! Anyway, I wish I could hang out with YOU GUYS , and see some EXTREME PROP PLANAGE like that this summer!!


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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 7:09 AM   
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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 7:19 AM   
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So let's keep the gloves on....and no dog kicking.

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 8:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hotliners are purty cool, but I need the smell of burnt nitro! 2 Jett fire 50's? You are insane and I love it! They counter-rotate?

Imagine the sound of those babies on the same sheet of music!

Keep us posted and PLEASE take video if possible-

Rock on y'all Speed Brothers!

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 5:14 PM   
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Ive known Ed for a number of years, flying pylon and all. Real nice guy, and an credit to Canada. Endless experience with engines and aircraft design. And he is a fun guy to drink with on occation. As you've noticed, he is not immune to stirring a turd now and then.... and thats part of his charm.

This is all in fun. If you take into consideration that us "pylon" guys spend hours/days/months trying to get a plane from 180 mph to 181 mph on the race course (and personally, I still sometimes get lapped) ..... it can be a bit humerous reviewing some of the 'speed' posts where someone changed a prop and picked up 25 mph (very general example).

Having said that... back to the topic....

I have no doubt this beast Dave and Erik have designed is going to haul some SERIOUS hiney.

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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 6:59 PM   
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RE: New speed plane - 1/20/2005 7:05 PM   
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AAAWW Bob, you gave it all away! I was seeing what it would take to stir up a lynch mob!

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LOL... well.. at least rope is cheap.

Erik, if you guys can work out a layover meeting....... I have no doubt yall would have a good time.

At least Capt Morgan is a bit less expensive on the north side of the border

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