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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 9/20/2002 8:06:12 AM   
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The anti rotation bracket keeps the outter ring of the swashplate from turning. The pasing is adjusted by rotating the two pins in the blue clamp above the washout. It needs to be adjusted so that the balls on the inner swashplate are lined up with the balls on the outter swashplate. If this isn't done properly then you could theoratically give a forward command and the heli will move forward and left or right depending on which direction the phase ring was rotated. On a heli like the raptor the pins are not moveable because they are part of the headblock.
This wasn't addressed in the instructions that we had.
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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 9/20/2002 8:28:37 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vance
The anti rotation bracket keeps the outter ring of the swashplate from turning. The pasing is adjusted by rotating the two pins in the blue clamp above the washout. It needs to be adjusted so that the balls on the inner swashplate are lined up with the balls on the outter swashplate. If this isn't done properly then you could theoratically give a forward command and the heli will move forward and left or right depending on which direction the phase ring was rotated. On a heli like the raptor the pins are not moveable because they are part of the headblock.
This wasn't addressed in the instructions that we had.
Vince D
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OOO thanks I forgot about that, you're right ,they is no mention of it but the picture does show it the right way. Besides you really can't rotate it to far off with out noticing that something is'nt right.
I guess for a beginner they could fowl it up.


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building time etc. - 9/20/2002 9:26:04 AM   
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Furyflyer,

I truly appreciate all of your efforts but I do find a few ambiguities. As I was also interested in the answers to the questions posed by Syclic. I will continue to wait for more clear answers upon completion.

Vance,

How much time did your friend spend building his?

It seems Furyflyer is a very fast builder. On post 36 he gave very reasonable times that had totaled to 2 hour and 15 minutes to that point -10 min, 15 min, 60 min, and 25 min. (please correct me if I am wrong)

There was still the lower frames to be assembled, the mast parts to be assembled and mounted into the top frames (maingear, auto rotation unit, assembled into the top frames with the mainshaft, swashplate, washout unit and radius guide that required "easing" , to post #55 where time seemed to have backed up because then instead of the 2 hrs 15 minutes added up in #36 here we are with more assembled and it is now only a total of 2 hrs ???? Unless he means another two hours for this additional assembly which would mean a total now of 4 hours and 15 minutes (seems more reasonable)

Then the clutch is attached to the motor, the motor onto the mount and the muffler to the motor, the clutch bell/start shaft assembly mounted into the top frame and the engine and its clutch/fan assembly into the lower frame and aligned to the clutch bell, fan shroud installed and the landing gear assembled and attached, fuel tank plumbed and installed. How much more time would all of this additional steps taken?

Then post #57 has it being "85% complete" and only weighing in at 6 lbs at that point without RX, Canopy, & Battery (What of the blades and gyro?)

Then later there is a picture with the engine & muffler in the mainframe with tail assembly attached and a weight of only 4 lbs claimed.....what, things have been added and it has lost two pounds?

Hmmmm....I will have to assume the time given Syclic "So far total time is about 2 1/2 hr's" is in error because from the preceding I must assume it is an honest error. (The first time I timed myself assembling a similar kit by logging the times taken for each step of the manual I was amazed at how wrong my estimation was after totalling each step. It actually took me three times longer then I had guestimated !!) So don't feel too bad FuryFlyer, it is an easy error to make.

I will wait for it to be completed, and hope at that time, with all radio gear, including RX, gyro, battery, blades and canopy you will be able to weigh it for us (I usually get my local postal station or shipping retailer to do this for me) and give us an accurate "ready to fly" weight.

Thank you Furyflyer for the complete pricing info. I can now compare it to others kits that come with blades and muffler (e.g Hirobo Sceado 30 and Century Hawk Sport or SE ). I understand with the kit at $299.00 the blades at $60 and the muffler at $70 that would be a total of $430.00. Now I can figure what else I may get for that price also. Maybe even a good 50 size heli for that price.

It would also be interesting to see in these reviews how well the helicopter faired (issues that may have subsequently had to be solved) after burning 10 gallons & then 20 gallons of hard aerobatics.

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 9/20/2002 9:50:12 AM   
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No my total building time not including set-up has been a total of 2 ½ hr +/- 1/2hr. I don’t include bathroom trips or a bite of a sandwich or looking for the right tool, if I did than my time would be 4 hrs. This kit has gone together very fast compared to the countless other kits i've built. I will probably spend about 1-2 hours fine tuning my set-up on the radio ,linkages etc before i'm done.

The parts you mention “(main gear, auto rotation unit, assembled into the top frames with the main shaft, swash plate, washout unit and radius guide that required "easing" ” go together in minutes maybe even seconds. The time I’m given is not an absolute it is their to give an idea of time spent, the main focus is on the kit, I could have made a mistake, but I am a very fast builder and am very mechanical inclined this stuff is second nature to me. I don’t mean to mislead anyone on the length of time and all time to complete a kit is contingent on the builder’s experience. So please don't take my time as gospel.

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Joe From CanopyFX - 9/24/2002 6:17:33 PM   
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Joe is taking care of the canopy for this heli.
With a custom paint job

Thanks Joe.

[URL=http://www.canopyfx.com/]CanopyFX[/URL]

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 9/26/2002 8:23:59 PM   
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I'm in the process of finishing the radio set-up etc... it looks like it might rain this weekend so will see if I can get a test flight in.

I'm really disappointed I have to use servo extensions in order to connect the servo's it to the receiver. The servo's are to far away and the receiver can't be mounted any closer. I will post some pic's of this.

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 9/27/2002 6:15:53 AM   
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READY TO FLY WEIGHT LESS CANOPY AND FINS 6LBS 5 OZ
The canopy before being painted was 5oz , the fins are probably 1.5oz. So were looking in the 7- 7 1/2 Lbs I'll post absolute when I get the fins and canopy on.

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Wow - 9/27/2002 8:33:40 PM   
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this is the weight with OS and pipe ?? I guess it is almost same as venture . May be , when you are at field , we could measure and compare all three

Raptor
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Venture ..

just a thought

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Re: Wow - 9/27/2002 8:40:32 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by aashu
Paul

this is the weight with OS and pipe ?? I guess it is almost same as venture . May be , when you are at field , we could measure and compare all three

Raptor
Quick
Venture ..

just a thought
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Good Idea.


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Little hefty.. - 9/28/2002 1:04:17 AM   
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That is in the 50 size weight range if that is the correct size.

This is before balancing the model too?

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Re: Little hefty.. - 9/28/2002 1:40:50 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lift
That is in the 50 size weight range if that is the correct size.

This is before balancing the model too?
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Balancing ?? I don't think I would have to add weight to do that?
Let's see how it fly's. I'll have plenty of Video.


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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 9/28/2002 2:01:55 AM   
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FuryFlyer,
I am expecting to hear a great report on the performance of this machine. I was at our field last Sat morning and this guy walks up and sets a new unique heli on the table. Being a heli freak that cannot seem to quit absorbing as much info on these little rotors I asked him what it was. He said "Quick 30 Pro." He was a complete newbie and had built it himself.

I sat down and studied the design and couldn't believe the amount of CNC milled stuff. Looked like alot of well thought out designs. Not to mention the Carbon Fiber frames. I LOVE CARBON FIBER!

Well, I felt the weight and it was a tad heavy for a 30 but not much. But, something would have to be seriously wrong for it not to fly well and last a long time. So, I am interested to know how it performs!

Keep up the good work.

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 9/28/2002 4:46:52 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lift
FuryFlyer,
I am expecting to hear a great report on the performance of this machine. I was at our field last Sat morning and this guy walks up and sets a new unique heli on the table. Being a heli freak that cannot seem to quit absorbing as much info on these little rotors I asked him what it was. He said "Quick 30 Pro." He was a complete newbie and had built it himself.

I sat down and studied the design and couldn't believe the amount of CNC milled stuff. Looked like alot of well thought out designs. Not to mention the Carbon Fiber frames. I LOVE CARBON FIBER!

Well, I felt the weight and it was a tad heavy for a 30 but not much. But, something would have to be seriously wrong for it not to fly well and last a long time. So, I am interested to know how it performs!

Keep up the good work.
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Thanks Lift! Will do....


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