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Quick- Quick review.... - 10/16/2002 11:42:02 PM   
stevenyc1


 

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due to many positive remarks re: the Quick 30 kit- I purchased a Q30 and received it Monday. I'd like to share my experience with this kit...


...upon arrival I'd noticed that the "instructions CD" were missing- a call to HeliProz suggested I'd call HHI as they are the importers. Upon calling HHI, Mr. Irwin Sinner insisted I had lost the instructions CD and informed me, "he'd send one anyway". Being the impatient person I am, I managed to find the instructions online via QuickWorldWide's website and saved them to disk and printed the entire 53 page manual.
...By the next night I had the entire helicopter built (paused during "Smallville" ---------- I'm impressed and thought it was going to take longer than it actually did. The kit is def high quality and every piece fit perfectly. The manual is straightforward... there's an air of quality to the machined pieces, which were all very lightweight- now I see just how it manages to be the same weight of average plastic 30's.
Aside from the missing CD hiccup- I've enjoyed building the heli and scrutinizing it's construction...now let's see how well it flies..............

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 1:25:44 AM   
Vance


 

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I don't know your experience level so please forgive me if this is elementary to you. When I helped with a Quick 30 build a year or so ago there was no mention in the intructions on correctly setting the phasing. If set incorrectly you can "whack it" on the first hover. If you know what phasing is then you probably already took care of it. If you don't know what it is I suggest you get a local experienced flyer to look over the heli(always a good idea)
Vince D

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 1:28:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vance
Mr. Nunez,
I don't know your experience level so please forgive me if this is elementary to you. When I helped with a Quick 30 build a year or so ago there was no mention in the intructions on correctly setting the phasing. If set incorrectly you can "whack it" on the first hover. If you know what phasing is then you probably already took care of it. If you don't know what it is I suggest you get a local experienced flyer to look over the heli(always a good idea)
Vince D [/QUOTE]

It's pretty hard to introduce "phasing" the mixing base can only twist so far, and the picture is very clear as to it's alignment.

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 2:02:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Since when has their been a phasing adjustable kit made?

I have yet to see one.

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 2:37:27 AM   
Vance


 

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Status: offline 		Well I guess the picture isn't foolproof then because I was at HHI on two occasions when people brought thier heli's in for them to look over before they flew them and both helis had this adjustment wrong(I'm calling it phasing as that is what I read in the magazines, that it was called that)
I think the bottom line is that with it adjusted incorrectly if you input a purely forward cyclic stick movement the heli will move forward and to the left or right depending on which direction the two pins have been rotated. Definitely someting that a heli neophyte( or anyone) could find difficult to deal with.
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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 9:27:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Vince,
Are the mixing base guide pins not permanently fixed to the headblock in some way?

In otherwords, are you saying that it is possible to assembly the pins, mixing base/arms incorrectly?

IMO, that is an area of a heli kit that should be locked down an fool proof. Otherwise, the initial flight would be quite eventful!!!

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 4:04:34 PM   
Vance


 

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Status: offline 		Yes they are a seperate part. and they can be rotated . If I recall correctly the directions called for certain links to be straight up & down or vertical , I forget the exact wording but when those particuilar links are vertical as called out in the instructions then the pins are pretty far out of phase. The freya and the Sceadu also have this part seperate, I don't recal thier instructions on it though.
Vince D

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 5:45:54 PM   
JonYuhas


 

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The way I always explain this is as follows; first rotate the washout so that the washout link is lined up with the antirotation guide. This is also in line with the boom. Next with the main blades on rotate them so that they are also parallel with the tail boom. Some people say to rotate the blades a little more than that, but I have found that this is really close and is simple, too.

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Jon Yuhas
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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/17/2002 5:48:20 PM   
JonYuhas


 

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Status: offline 		Also cycle your swash plate to the top of its travel to make sure the swash doesn't hit the guide pin, and cycle it to the bottom to ensure that the washout doesn't come out of the pin. Then lock it down.

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Jon Yuhas
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Q30 - 10/18/2002 11:28:01 AM   
stevenyc1


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the feedback guys....

...yeah the manual is a bit vague on setting the washout link- I wouldn't recommend a Q30 to a novice unless they have an experienced builder who's willing to go over the kit prior to flying.

Small quips:

I don't like the tailrod linkage- the carbon tailrod itself is very nice but I don't like the fact that's it's meant to be assembled as a unit with the boom guides and small inserts all setup (glued) prior to mounting- it's a bit weird like that...a simple threaded ended rod would have worked, but I guess they wanted to save a gram or two in the tail!

Another small pain was the anti-rotation guides tightness at the bottom and top- it took a bit of sanding and smoothing to get it smooth all throught it's slot, but it's easy to get it perfect. (5 min fix- tops)

I've also found the heli tends to be slightly tail heavy- and I do mean slightly- if you use a 4/5 cell sub c pack- it balances perfectly, but if you use a small flight pack as supplied with radios (usually 4 AA nicads) the heli will end up tail heavy- so go with a 4/5-cell sub c pack and you're ready to go. I didn't use the gyro platform in the rear and instead mounted the Fut401 upfront- I placed a GEM 2000 rx guardian with a bright red LED on the gyro platform- which weighs about 5 grams and adds virtually nothing to the rear bias but is worth it's weight in gold! (the header tank adds more weight)

Another quip is my particular heli came with plasitc spacers that are added to the tail blades so they'll fit in the tail blade holders- problem is they're a tad bit thick and cause the tail blades to be extremely stiff- mine will need some sanding to allow the blades some rotational play- again a very small quip but I thought I'd throw it in.

For what it's worth- I think the Learner's G10's frames are awesome- I'd rate them a tad bit better than graphite (Carbon Fiber)....CF can induce RF noise and are more brittle than G10 while only being a mere 4% lighter and less resilient than G10 of the same thickness (RCCA magazine fig.). The G10 frames as supplied with the Q30 show a fine detail weaving pattern very similar to CF and to most people will appear as a darkened CF frame- you wont be dissappointed with a Q30 frame that's for sure! The machine work on my kit was excellent- no rough edges and all anodizing matched perfectly.

Am I glad I bought a Q30---------------YES!!!!!

In my opinion there's no other 30 size kit in standard form that approaches the quality of the Q30- and considering manfacturers sell more 30 size machines than any other is just big kudos to the designer of the Q30--- job well done!

On paper and on the spec sheet- the Q30 flat out stands ahead of the crowd- let's see how well it flies....


...the Saga continues...............

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/21/2002 10:35:37 PM   
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Bump - 10/23/2002 3:46:04 AM   
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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/23/2002 10:35:10 PM   
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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/24/2002 1:16:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have the pro version coming next week, I will let you all know how everything goes with it.

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**Quick Worldwide-Quick Learner REVIEW** - 10/29/2002 6:44:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Got my canopy and fins here's some pics.

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