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Joined: 1/10/2003 From: Corryton,
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ORIGINAL: Dirk Digler Right. The rc crawlers don't resemble 1:1 crawlers because they are hardly anything alike. They build the 1:1 rigs for the best performance possible, given the terrain, rules and what works best through proven history. We rc crawlers build our rigs to do the same thing and we've found what works and what doesn't work in the rc world. RC crawlers don't care if they look like anything, as long as they get over obsticles with the least amount of points possible. As for skill and inginuity, I will have to disagree once again. I admit that it takes skill to build any model but I would give inginuity credit to the hard core crawlers and not the scale builders. To build a scale crawler, you can easily hack a prefabbed chassis, like that of the Twin Force, throw on some axles, hide almost everything with a large body, install some smaller tires and you have a scale looking rig that can crawl around some good sized rocks. If you take the competition crawlers, you have to start from the ground up by building your own chassis and most every other part on the rig, cept for the axles. Not only do you have to fab almost all the parts, you have to make them all work in conjunction with eachother. You have to have the right balance of weight. You have to make the suspension geometry work perfectly. You have to get the CG perfect. You have to choose the right tires and wheels. etc, etc, etc. Not to mention driving skill, which may be the most important part of competition but is certainly not related to inginuity. You can hide a lot of inginuity on a scale rig but not in crawling competition. And as for inginuity, if you look at 90% or more of the scale rigs, you see borrowed inginuity from the hard core crowd. Bottom line is that I would bet that I could put tother a scale rig tonight (one night) that looks awesome and everyone would say, "Wow, that looks awesome. Just like a real Jeep". but if I tried to put a competitive comp rig together in one night, not only would I not finish but it would perform terrible. For my scale shaftie, everything will be custom fabbed except for the tranny and axles, and those will be modified in several ways. It's pretty much a similar process as building one like yours, but with the added limitations and complexity presented by trying to remain scale in appearance and having to deal with a actual drivetrain. No offense, but the class 1 clod is probably the easiest to build of all. No size or scale constraints and no drivetrain to deal with. It's all self contained on the axles. Anyone with a basic unsderstanding of multi-link suspension design and geometry can pull one off. Although I could easily build one, I don't want a two foot long crawler with clod axles that can climb a tree. Very unrealistic, but to each his own. If everybody liked the same stuff, the world would be a very boring place. I been around your site for a while, and it seems to me like scale builds are definetly on the rise and are getting a lot of props. Maybe you need to try a scale rig. It might be more difficult to build than you imagined and more fun to drive. There's more fabrication is some of the scale rigs I have seen than five class 1's put together. A good example is the project land cruiser in the small scale section of your forum. I have run across a few scale tuber jeeps that are amazing too.
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