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Thanks for this addition. - 1/30/2005 12:43:00 AM   
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Well, isn't this a nice addition. Thank you very much.

FIRST POST. YIPPEE ! !

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 2/2/2005 6:38:11 PM   
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O.K., so when does all the bickering begin over here?

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 2/9/2005 10:17:16 PM   
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by the look of things it doesn't. I noticed very few had posted here and thought i would just say hi.

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 2/14/2005 4:08:44 PM   
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Mostly because most of us Canaucks spend are Canauck talk over on rccanada.ca the over here thats all.. Jas who owns rcc did a good job.. we actully I would quess have about 25% of the MAAC membership hanging there if you go buy just the Registerd ones

Great to see Marc though has add us to the USA side of things though
eh!!

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 2/16/2005 6:11:26 PM   
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P51-B wrote

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O.K., so when does all the bickering begin over here?


Did not take long did it. Happy now?

Ed S

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 2/17/2005 8:27:21 PM   
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P51-B wrote

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O.K., so when does all the bickering begin over here?


Did not take long did it. Happy now?

Ed S



Geesh, I was talking about how the AMA forum gets going. I didn't expect something like what NOVAflier put in the middle of the thread

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 2/20/2005 3:40:30 PM   
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Just wanted to say hello. I see it's started already!

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 3/27/2005 4:31:29 PM   
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Testing, testing!

Am I on??

Just checking!

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 3/29/2005 1:47:04 PM   
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Testing, testing!

Am I on??

Just checking!

Ronm



The lights are on but nobody's home.

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 3/30/2005 1:26:01 PM   
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Geesh, I was talking about how the AMA forum gets going. I didn't expect something like what NOVAflier put in the middle of the thread


Not to be outdone, MAAC, like AMA, has a small vocal few who consider themselves the armchair overseers who "know best what Canadian modellers want". Funny enough, though they've tried for many years, they can't scrape together more than a handful of followers who do no more than take pot shots at thos who actually volunteer to further the organization.

But enough on that, MAAC is certainly smaller than AMA, but IMHO they do a bang up job promoting the hobby across our vastly dispersed population. Are they perfect? No. But, if you'r willing to invest the time, it is possible to make a difference. MAAC is small enough to still be influenced by a few dynamic members.

Population distribution results in the majority of modellers being concentrated in the Southern Ontario area. This results in a lot of the impetus for MAAC comes from the large groups in that area. This is often viewed as discriminatory and leads to silly us vs. them east vs west (which is silly because Ontario is far from the true east, coast that is). Sadly, that pattern is not limited to modelling....

And before my usual opponents chime in, yes, I am from "the centre of the universe" (Toronto area).

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 4/2/2005 4:04:33 AM   
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Not to be outdone, MAAC, like AMA, has a small vocal few who consider themselves the armchair overseers who "know best what Canadian modellers want".



There is no arguing that point Jim.

............and them "knows bestest" types take themselves way too seriously.

I'm sure Jim agrees that having funn with toy airplanes is what it's all about.

cheers

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 4/3/2005 12:51:30 AM   
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Not to be outdone, MAAC, like AMA, has a small vocal few who consider themselves the armchair overseers who "know best what Canadian modellers want". Funny enough, though they've tried for many years, they can't scrape together more than a handful of followers who do no more than take pot shots at thos who actually volunteer to further the organization.

But enough on that, MAAC is certainly smaller than AMA, but IMHO they do a bang up job promoting the hobby across our vastly dispersed population. Are they perfect? No. But, if you'r willing to invest the time, it is possible to make a difference. MAAC is small enough to still be influenced by a few dynamic members.

Population distribution results in the majority of modellers being concentrated in the Southern Ontario area. This results in a lot of the impetus for MAAC comes from the large groups in that area. This is often viewed as discriminatory and leads to silly us vs. them east vs west (which is silly because Ontario is far from the true east, coast that is). Sadly, that pattern is not limited to modelling....

And before my usual opponents chime in, yes, I am from "the centre of the universe" (Toronto area).



You'll note the bold area within Mr McIntyre's post related to the largely held notion that the majority of members within MAAC are "concentrated" in Southern Ontario. Unfortunately, the statement is not true. The link below are some stats from 2002 and give or take a few percentages, they hold true from year to year.

http://mbz.portage.net/national/MembershipBreakdownApril2002.html

When totals for Southeast, Southwest, Ottawa Valley and Middle zone are compared to the total numbers, it's more like 43%, which is far from "majority". Much of the problems that seem to exist is those who seem to have a need to hold onto some mythical model aircraft power base instead of considering themselves as part of the whole. Truth is, that Alberta and BC are growing quicker in numbers than those areas and from the manitoba border west, about 39% of the membership resides, which makes both regions almost equal partners so there really is no point to try and pursue the east/west thing.

Most of the disagreements within the structure have not been about east or west, it's been about changes to the organization's priorities. I suspect, much like any organization, there are some who wish to retain status quo and will resist those who wish to make any changes.

....chuckle.....some will say, "stop complaining and get involved if you want changes".............they only mean that if you wish to maintain status quo. They are not interested in your "involvement" if you are seeking change. I speak from experience after accepting the challenge to get involved............wow.......... I have since escaped.

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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 4/4/2005 8:37:22 PM   
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I'm sure Jim agrees that having funn with toy airplanes is what it's all about.


Bravo on another attempt at inside witicism in attempt to set me up for another of your "sound thrashings" Mr Sharpe.

Unfortunately, I believe our definition of "fun" may not be the same.

My definition includes the camaraderie of sharing and development of shared interests, as contrasted to your 'baiting' in an effort to exhibit your "profound insight" into Canadian modeller needs through flexing your "superior" debating skills ... with little regard to the cost to public relations for MAAC.


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RE: Thanks for this addition. - 4/4/2005 8:44:13 PM   
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... it's more like 43%, which is far from "majority".

Plot it on geography, consider the difficulties imposed by geography, and you can see why it's an effective majority (like it or not). But, that wasn't my point (as you well know).

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Most of the disagreements within the structure have not been about east or west, it's been about changes to the organization's priorities. I suspect, much like any organization, there are some who wish to retain status quo and will resist those who wish to make any changes.


Yes, and the majority vote every year for "status quo". To put it terms you would understand "if it aint broke, don't fix it". Your radical approachs, although admittedly often hold some philosophical merit, appear to fail in light of practical application.

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....chuckle.....some will say, "stop complaining and get involved if you want changes".............they only mean that if you wish to maintain status quo. They are not interested in your "involvement" if you are seeking change. I speak from experience after accepting the challenge to get involved............wow.......... I have since escaped.


Escape would be one interpretation.....

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