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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/6/2006 5:01:56 AM   
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I got two flights in late this afternoon with the 10x3; that's more the speed I'm comfortable with. I do use the throttle, but I must admit that unless I'm in trouble or landing I tend to forget about the trottle, however, the little Mustang just doesn't feel as solid at anything less than 3/4 throttle. Thank you all for the advice.

Oscar

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/9/2006 6:55:05 PM   
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Well, I actually got to fly my mustang in the heat of battle this weekend. My club had a combat competiton loosely based around the battle of the Pacific. We had two rectangles spray painted on opposite ends of the field to stand in as aircraft carriers. One for the Japanese Akagi and one for the American Yorktown. There were balloons suspended on string above the carriers, blue ones over the Yorktown and red ones over the Akagi. Lined up on either side of the carriers were volunteers with paintball machineguns to simulate antiaircraft fire to shoot at any aircraft brave enough to venture after the balloons. The combat planes were divided into two teams, and red streamers were attached to the planes on the Japanese side and blue streamers were attached to the planes on the American side. Points were scored in the following categories. Cuting an opponents streamer, poping a balloon over the opponents carrier, and at the end of each combat session, points could be had by accurately landing on your carrier. It was a hoot and great fun was had by both participants and spectators.
Most of the aircraft were "SPADS" built from "cryoplast" I think it's called. It's that plastic sheeting that looks like cardboard . My mustang and a P-39 were the only planes that were of built up balsa. In the first heat, I sustained a mid air collision and was able to glide the aircraft down into the nearby brush when the engine cut out. Upon recovering the aircraft, the only damage was a hole punched in the turtle decking between the cockpit canopy and the firewall. I quickly patched the hole with tape and got right back into the fight. The plane flew excellent and showed no signs of ill effect from the damage it had sustained. I was very impressed with the maneuverability of the mustang versus the spads, as I had no trouble "turning and burning" on them at will. The mustang was clearly the fastest and most maneuverable plane in the sky that day even though most of the other planes had 40+ size engines versus my 25 size engine. It was easily the coolest looking plane in the sky that day and I received many kudos from my fellow flyers for having the guts to enter it into the competition. They were all very impressed with how much of a beating the plane could take and still hang in there.

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/9/2006 7:26:23 PM   
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Well, I actually got to fly my mustang in the heat of battle this weekend. My club had a combat competiton loosely based around the battle of the Pacific. We had two rectangles spray painted on opposite ends of the field to stand in as aircraft carriers. One for the Japanese Akagi and one for the American Yorktown. There were balloons suspended on string above the carriers, blue ones over the Yorktown and red ones over the Akagi. Lined up on either side of the carriers were volunteers with paintball machineguns to simulate antiaircraft fire to shoot at any aircraft brave enough to venture after the balloons. The combat planes were divided into two teams, and red streamers were attached to the planes on the Japanese side and blue streamers were attached to the planes on the American side. Points were scored in the following categories. Cuting an opponents streamer, poping a balloon over the opponents carrier, and at the end of each combat session, points could be had by accurately landing on your carrier. It was a hoot and great fun was had by both participants and spectators. competition. They were all very impressed with how much of a beating the plane could take and still hang in there.



Sound like a real hoot! I love the paintball gunners idea!

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/15/2006 6:09:58 AM   
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I must be a brick builder when it comes to combat planes.

In April I built 3 GP mustangs for a local contest "Bushwacked" I was able to keep 1 in one piece for the contest. On my first cut I took the streamer at the string and stalled the motor. The plane came in hard and you can see the results for yourself at : http://rcbushpilots.com and click on combat photos. I attribute my demise to the small wing on the mustang (plus weight = high wing load) It was a bear to launch but an absolute bullet in the air.

The good news is Im back to try 2610 combat again. I built 2 GP Corsairs this time. I have made some strength mods but still come in at under 3 lbs. The lighter wing loading feels much better on the hand launch. I fly the FX 25 with a 10X4 and they do not lack for speed.

The best part is after I figured out my mods the second plane came together in about 8 hrs complete. Once I know if they help significantly in combat I'll post them here.

Maybe I'll see you in West Palm Beach FL for another "Bushwacked"

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 1:39:59 AM   
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Well, I finally finished my Corsair today. Maiden tomorrow at our club warbird meet.
OS 32. 6 oz Hayes tank, Dual servos on the elevator, metal gears on the ailreons, no rudder (hope I don't regret it, Nelson Ultra thrust muffler. Engine peaked to 18,200 out of the box. I will richen it up a little so it can unload and break in in the air. Low end seems to be perfect out of the box.Ultracote Safety Yellow and some kinda of Ultracoe blue.
I built some wheel inserts to install just forward of the main spar in the wing and just outside of the gull bend. If I find I need them it will be a simple install, all up weight of wheel assemblies is 1 1/2 ounces for the pair. Hayes racinging wheel cut down to 2' diameter.
Had to make a special trip to the hobby store for a 270 mah battery that would fit up at the front behind the fire wall. Amazing, with a 32 it was still just a bit tail heavy. I cut my own graphics and I know it represents no real airplane, but it shoud fool most of the people out there. Can't wait to try it out tomorrow.
You can see that I photographed it on top of a trash can, could be a bad sign.
DD

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 1:53:23 AM   
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Looks great, wish you luck! Btw, if you empty your trashcan before the flight, the curse will be removed!

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 2:52:53 AM   
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Thanks Boris, as is with all of us Rc'ers, you are the eternal optomist!
DD

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 3:01:39 AM   
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I really dont see how those wheels are going to work. There is no clearance for the prop...

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 3:11:20 AM   
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Just for landing Bubba, just for landing.
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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 5:02:38 AM   
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where are the wheeks attatched to? the servo bays? the "V" of the gull wing???

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 10:35:03 AM   
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They will be just in front of the main spar, just outboard of the gull with the wheels as close to the joint as possible so as to get maximum clearance wih as little wheel hanging out as possible Just slot the wing so the wheel can fit inside and screw the plate down on to the wing. You will have to shim under the outbaoard side of the axel retainer to compensate for the angle of the wing. I used a piece of 1/8 inch light ply and it looked about right. I also drilled a few lightning holes in everything to try and keep the weight down.
DD

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 2:03:35 PM   
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Well, I could'nt sleep so I went ahead and installed these things in the wing so you can see where I put them. I hope it does'nt ruin the profile in the air.
AS you can see, it is giving me almost an inch of clearance on the wing itself and about 3/4 of an inch on the aileron servo.
I used 3/32 aircraft ply, but I had to releive the back side of the wood to get it to conform to the airfoil. so you might want to start with 1/16 and it will probably bend nicley and still give you the support it needs.
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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/19/2006 9:12:24 PM   
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The little Corsair fly's like it was made too. 1 click of down elevator and 1 click right aileron, nice. It ook 3 flights to get the control throws down to a comfortable level for full throttle flight. Only problem was I forgot to switch back to high rates for the last landing. I had the elevator stick bending to try and keep the nose up but whoops, too late. It took quite a bounce and came down fairly hard on the botom of the cowl. A little glass on the inside should make it as good as new. The wheels worked out just fine although they did'nt get used on the last landing!. This plane slows way down for landing and does not seem to want to snap at low speed. I had the flaperons programed in but did not use them. I imagine its moving 120 to 130mph in level flight. The OS 32 really unloads in the air with the Nelson Ultrathrust muffler. You can really hear it twisting up when you pull on the elevator, Music! I think I might have made all the scale guys with their big exspensive war birds nervous.
DD

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 8/22/2006 3:08:13 AM   
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