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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/2/2005 4:47:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well i order them both just to have a set to play with did find a flaw in the manul on the corsair said it was for a 3 channel but really it is a 4 channel plane and the p51 is a 3 channel but that depends on the radio you use anyway i like them both eazy to build not bad for fun set of planes that iam not GOING to have to cover nothing lollol hate to do that covering takes for ever

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/2/2005 7:18:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Corsair is a 3 channel airplane, no rudder. I am enjoying it!

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/2/2005 8:31:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think he's plugging the aileron servos into separate channels, in which case it's a 4 channel, and you can have flaperon/spoileron mixing as well. The Mustang has only one aileron servo, so it's only a 3 channel...

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/2/2005 9:41:29 PM   
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I think he's plugging the aileron servos into separate channels, in which case it's a 4 channel, and you can have flaperon/spoileron mixing as well. The Mustang has only one aileron servo, so it's only a 3 channel...


I don't think you can realize too much benefit setting this airplane up for flaperons or airlon differential -- IMHO, the airplane is too small. In such a case you could plug into separate channels but ultimately your channel 1 is master and the 2nd channel (6 or 7 -- Futaba, Hitec, etc) moves as it does. You can do the same thing just connecting them into a 'Y'-connector. This is what I will do, even though with my Futaba 9C I could easily set it up from separate channels.

The dual servos for the Corsair is really a design convenience. Unlike the Mustang you can't torque-rod connect the airlons and using bellcranks would pose its on design problems.


< Message edited by hilleyja -- 5/2/2005 9:43:31 PM >


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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/2/2005 10:09:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes thats what i did and really like that way have had a lot of plane from a long time ago were setup just like that and i got used to it so not changing now lol imao

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/2/2005 10:25:52 PM   
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I don't think you can realize too much benefit setting this airplane up for flaperons or airlon differential -- IMHO, the airplane is too small. In such a case you could plug into separate channels but ultimately your channel 1 is master and the 2nd channel (6 or 7 -- Futaba, Hitec, etc) moves as it does. You can do the same thing just connecting them into a 'Y'-connector. This is what I will do, even though with my Futaba 9C I could easily set it up from separate channels...


With a Y-harness, you have to level out your ailerons mechanically, with separate channels, you just dial it in where you want from the TX...

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/3/2005 3:03:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hilleyja

I don't think you can realize too much benefit setting this airplane up for flaperons or airlon differential -- IMHO, the airplane is too small. In such a case you could plug into separate channels but ultimately your channel 1 is master and the 2nd channel (6 or 7 -- Futaba, Hitec, etc) moves as it does. You can do the same thing just connecting them into a 'Y'-connector. This is what I will do, even though with my Futaba 9C I could easily set it up from separate channels...


With a Y-harness, you have to level out your ailerons mechanically, with separate channels, you just dial it in where you want from the TX...


We are talking about airlons here, not trying to match split elevators. I don't think there are too many out there planning on using these planes for precision IMAC sequences. Besides, whether I use separate channels or not I always level out my airlons mechanically -- gives me a warm fuzzy that subtrim for both channels are virtually the same.

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/3/2005 5:34:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		-pkh- that was my plan at first but after reading and reading and reading yuk tell my eyes went nuts i decided to stay with my simple 3 channel neon ss with mixer so much better and lighter but i do have a much larger radio 7 channel futaba that i run my combat A10 wart Hog twin 25s it has the set up like you were speaking about sence the radio does not have mixing thanks

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/10/2005 3:35:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Having extensively flown the .25 FX I highly recommend the APC 9-5. It has always been the best prop for me at the altitude that I fly. Remember that the combat guys are using quarter wave pipes (mouse cans) by and large and have all but abandoned the stock mufflers. They need the high RPM to get on the pipe. I (using these pipes as well) still prefer the stock or prefered macs (black, one peice) muffler. The power is more solid and does not lag. For sport use I recommend the 9-5 APC or the 10-3 for first flights. The 10-3 is slower but will give very good, solid thrust for those not used to hand launching a higher wing loaded plane such as these.
The MAS props are inferior in my opinion and only realize popularity because of the lower cost. They may hold p a little better in your landing but if you set the prop correctly in relation to the compression you will have no problem.
A 3 channel airplane controls 3 axis, a 4 channel plane controls 4. No yaw... no 4th channel. Regaurdless of how many ports on your reciever you use.

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/10/2005 4:03:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		thanks vertical grimmace
great info like all ways it sure helps me and others i will be useing it

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/10/2005 1:52:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I got to see another club member fly his P-51 this weekend. He is flying it with an OS CV-15A and a 7x6 MA prop. It is fast but a little on the weak side at takeoff mode. He will have difficulty hand launching it without an assistant.

It gave me a chance to see how my Corsair might fly since I'm planning on the same engine. I think I'll go with the APC 8x4 prop to gain more torque for takeoff.

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/11/2005 6:03:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Having a CV .15 the 8-4 is definately the right choice. A 7-5 is not bad either. The 8-4 being better for launch and 7-5 better for more speed. Those are great little engines. I have flown mine mostly on an old Killer V. Perfect for that plane.

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/12/2005 12:44:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any builders out there that have seen the Corsair think that you could put landing gear on this plane? i am especially interested in retracts. I know the gull wing makes it difficult, but I'd really like to use retracts on my next warbird, and since .15-.25 is my preferred size, I thought this would be a great choice. Thanks!

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RE: Great Planes Combat Corsair and Mustang - 5/12/2005 9:07:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have never built a plane this small, but don't you think that would up the wing loading a lot? I mean in a