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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/26/2005 4:24:07 PM   
    bdavison


     

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    Ahhh...the X piece mystery has been solved...
    I wonder why they still included the X pieces if they knew we didnt need them. Like anyone was going to convert their R/C version to a tethered version...LOL...not a chance.

    Donnie.
    Yeah, I know what you mean. The XRB does not like the wind. Even with the lighter paddles and flipped flybar, I still have trouble if the winds really stiff.

    Concausa,
    When you get your XRB, open the manual, and follow the instructions for balancing the blades and trimming out the heli and adjusting the gyro. If you do this it will improve your chances. If your still having difficulty, go find a gym someplace and practice there. The more open space will give you more of a chance to save it vs trying to save it in your living room. Be patient and dont get in too much of a rush to fly. Fly your ability, ignore your head. You shouldnt have any problem.

    Greenguts,
    Thanks for the compliment. I try. Ive been getting into photography as one of my other hobbies. Still learning, but occasionally I hit it good.
    Ive attached some other pics I took...Non-topic, but pretty cool none the less. One of them is the IllConduct stunt team.(yes Im into motorcycles too). The others are from the last airshow.

    Well, I finally broke down and ordered some carbon fiber blades. Pics coming as soon as I get them. Im out of commission for a while now, as I just popped my last set of 'B's and the local hobby shop has a 4 week backorder. This sucks.

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/26/2005 6:23:43 PM   
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    Anybody remember the Calvin & Hobbes comic strip where Calvin is waiting for his flying beanie hat to come in the mail? I'm waiting for my XRB . .. but I'm sure that I won't be disappointed like Calvin was!

    Dang, I should have ordered the cabin interior while I was at it. Those look cool. I'm going to put a little cut-out photo of myself in the cockpit. (It's the closest I'll ever come to piloting a Lama!)

    Can anyone tell me roughly the scale of the Hirobo XRB? I want to set up a heli-base - so I'll want to scale things roughly proportional anyway.

    I'm sooo excited . . .

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/26/2005 7:33:38 PM   
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    You will love yours... I love mine.....
    some pics.... I had a hick of a time getting the tail rotor finally to work right but now it does.....check it out....... STRINGFLY <>+++++

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/27/2005 2:51:03 AM   
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    What the...how the...

    Dude, how did you hook up the tail rotor? Thats cool. It looks like you ran some kind of shaft to the tail rotor. How did you hook it up?
    Thats sweet.

    Ive got a short 3.8mb video of the XRB doing some aerobatics. Does anyone know how I can upload it into the forum?

    It shows a takeoff, a spinning piroette, forwards and backwards circles, along with piroetting circles, and a (lousy) landing, but its really cool. Someone please tell me how to upload it.

    Thanks in advance.

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/27/2005 12:19:06 PM   
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    bdavison,
    Do let us see the video. The only video that I have seen is out-of-the-box hovering.

    I would guess you can just attach the file ??? - if you hit the "post reply" button (don't use the "Fast Reply" there's a place on the form to upload a file. Or place it in your gallery.

    Now how did he do that tail rotor . . .

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/27/2005 3:53:17 PM   
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    Well,

    Here's a link to the video. Grab it while you can. I stuck it on Tripod's free webhosting. They give you about 1GB of bandwidth, so its probably not going to be there long. Sorry for the poor quality, but I had to make it as small as possible so that as many folks as possible could see it.

    Enjoy

    http://radiocontrolledheli.tripod.com/_private/HiroboXRB.wmv

    Here's what you do....Copy this link into your browser. Hit enter

    When it asks you for a username and password...just type in

    Username:radiocontrolledheli
    Password:3899023

    then it should let you view it.

    Pain in the ****

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/28/2005 2:15:22 AM   
    bdavison


     

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    Comments? Anyone?

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/28/2005 2:55:54 AM   
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    Nice video ยก How much time flying the lama before be able to do that kind of pirouettes ? Which is the hardest ?

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/28/2005 1:04:56 PM   
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    In the beginning of the video, right after take off, it was going up and rotating in a piroette at the same time. While it looks really hard...its really easy. Just bring the heli to a hover, get it as stable as you can. Now give it a little throttle to make it climb at a decent rate and at the same time give it full right stick input on the rudder. When your done, let go of the input. (and of course dont let it run into the ceiling). Its that simple. It will freak you out the first time you do it, because it looks like its whipping around really fast. Dont worry about it. It will stop rotating on a dime. As long as you end the piroette with the tail facing you, your right back in the same hover you had before.

    The key with it is NOT to give ANY cyclic commands while youve got the rudder in. If you do, it will starting doing a circle in the direction of the cyclic input.

    Which brings us to the other part of the video.

    See the XRB's rudder turns better to the right than it does to the left. I think its due to torque. If you give left rudder input, it will slow the blades down a little. This will require you to give a little throttle to keep rotor speed up. If you rotate to the right, it doesnt affect the rotor speed as much, so its far easier to do a maneuver with right rudder input than left rudder input, because it wont change the rotor speed and altitude as much.

    With this in mind. Get the heli in a hover with tail facing you. Hold full forward cyclic. While you do this, start feeding in just enough right rudder to make it turn. Keep holding the forward cyclic. Eventually it will do a regular forward flight circle. Now to get to the more wild part. As it comes back around the circle, feed in more right rudder. It will spin out of the circle and into a piroette(dont forget to let off the forward cyclic). Now wait till the tail is facing you in the piroette, stop all right rudder input, and give it full backward cyclic, now feed in right rudder again to make it do a rearward circle.

    Now vary your throttle while doing the above, and make it do the circles up higher, then decending as the circles get tighter and tighter until they end in a piroette a ft off the floor.

    It really sounds far harder than it really is.

    The biggest hurdle is just getting rid of that "its gonna roll over and crash" feeling.

    I learned how to do this kind of stuff in about a week of flying everyday. I wouldnt say any of that stuff is really hard. I know no ones gonna believe me. Im being dead seriously honest. I never flew a heli before I got the XRB. That video was shot one week after I got it. I flew about 5 flights a day with it during that week. Like I said the biggest hurdle is not learning how to fly it. The biggest hurdle is putting that fear behind you and just shoving the stick in some direction. Do it inside a gym. Dont try that stuff in your house. Inside a standard basketball court, you shouldn't have any problem. Its hard to explain. Its like it just clicks, you will be flying along, finally get over your fear, and try something, then you will say "that was easy....lets see if I can make it even more wildr"
    Honestly, there is only two ways I can think of that you could crash it.

    1 . Running into a wall or the ceiling or something.
    2. Pulling off too much throttle and hitting the ground.

    Here's the steps I would recommend. (remember dont do anything unless your comfortable doing it, but dont let fear keep you from trying something)

    First get comfortable hovering. I mean really comfortable. You should be able to takeoff, and maintain a hover at any altitude. It should not move more than about 6" in any direction while in a hover.

    Next, while in a hover, give it some forward cyclic as it moves forward, change it to rearward cyclic, and make it come back to you. Then do the same thing in left and right cyclic, until you get really used to it. It should not drift off course. It should not gain or lose altitude.

    Next learn your piroette. Just get it in a hover, and give it full right rudder. Do NOT input any cyclic commands while its spinning. Its better to whip it around fast your first time than slowly. If it goes slowly, you will have a short amount of time that its in nose in flight. If you whip it around fast, it wont be nose in long enough to make a difference. Like I said, it will freak you out, and you will probably have the jitters, but then you'll realize that it was a piece of cake. Get comfortable doing this. Start with one single 360 and progress to multiple 360's in both directions. You should ideally be able to have some one next to you while your in a hover, and have them say "piroette" and you do it right then. You shouldnt have to "prepare" for a piroette. You should be able to do it at anytime at any altitude. This sounds much harder than it is, once youve done a couple..its really easy.

    Next try a forward flight circle, Put in forward cyclic, and start feeding in rudder to make it turn. Get comfortable doing this in both right and left directions(remember to increase power on left input circles(traveling right)). Once you get good at doing circles, you should be able to fly around in any direction.

    Now learn to do circles with right and left cyclic. So that the nose is always facing inside of the circle, and outside of the circle, in both right and left.

    By this time, you can go nuts. Each of those lessons will probably take about 4 or 5 flights to feel comfortable doing it.

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/28/2005 2:01:23 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: bdavison

    What the...how the...

    Dude, how did you hook up the tail rotor? Thats cool. It looks like you ran some kind of shaft to the tail rotor. How did you hook it up?
    Thats sweet.



    Looks like STRINGFLY had another cool idea! Looks like he used a clear peice of plastic and drew some circles on it. Good going!

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 2/28/2005 7:28:55 PM   
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    I put them corss braces infront and at the back of the battery tray/rack right across the front and back skip pads. They hold the battery in place and kinbd of reinforce the landing pad a little.


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    Bdavison,
    Still can't find a place for the cross braces. I have the training gear in place just like the instructions but no mention of these cross braces. They don't fit anywhere. There are two of them about 3" long shaped like a very narrow X
    Donnie



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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 3/1/2005 1:29:11 AM   
    bdavison


     

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    Just wanted to let you guys know. I found a good dealer for those carbon fiber blades.

    Goto www.jutstar.com This guy has them for 49.00 bucks+2 bucks shipping. They will arrive via airmail in 5-6 days.
    He's in canada, and will answer e-mails within minutes.
    They are in stock, as I ordered mine today, and he shipped them this afternoon. I will post back here with pics and opinions on them as soon as I recieve them.

    I was bidding on them on ebay, but the price was getting up there where I could order from him...so I did.

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    RE: Hirobo XRB PICS!!! and build info. - 3/1/2005 2:36:41 AM