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Litco Lottery - 9/17/2002 10:44:51 AM   
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I have to agree with BocaBen. These things are built in someone's basement.


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Litco Lottery - 9/17/2002 4:09:31 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by OmegaSyx
I have to agree with BocaBen. These things are built in someone's basement. [/QUOTE]

[COLOR=crimson]FLASH****FLASH****FLASH****FLASH[/COLOR]

The Litco Alpha 4 is not mass produced!!!!

It is common knowledge that Litco is a mom and pop operation. This is not a new revelation. Does this detract from the units functionality, or durability? Is there another unit that does what the Litco does to four batteries simultaneously?

No on all counts. My original Litco is going on six years old, and it still works flawlessly. I like it so much that I am in line for another one.

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Litco Lottery - 9/17/2002 4:45:04 PM   
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When were Alpha 4's first produced ?

It seems that Litco has been way ahead of the game for a while.
its only in the last few years that peak detection with microprocessor controlled chargers have come into mainstream.

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Litco Lottery - 9/17/2002 7:42:48 PM   
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I am not sure just how long they have been around. I learned of them in the rec.models.rc.air newsgroup. That was about five or six years ago. They have been on the leading edge of battery maintenance for quite a few years. I would really like to look at the programming algorithms that control the Alpha functionality, but they are a tightly guarded secret for obvious reasons. Over the years some have advertised "vapor ware" to clone or replace the Alpha at a much cheaper price. They have never materialized.

I would like to see a competitor emerge that would produce a unit that could do what the Alpha does with four ports simultaneously at a cheaper cost, and higher output current.

There are chargers that come close, but do it with only one port. To me this is no advantage. I own several chargers, as the Alpha cannot do all that I need. For what it does do though, it is yet to be matched.

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Litco Lottery - 9/22/2002 5:35:02 AM   
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>> wasn't there talk that there was a self destruct mechanism in the case ?

It was hogwash. I've opened up two. Nothing hard to open them up, no bobby traps, and it went back together and worked fine. I attached a low res photo of the internals. Not exactly hi tech manufacturing.

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93 - 9/22/2002 5:35:27 PM   
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Alpha 4 sales began in 93' almost 10 years ago, Demand has been growing ever since. They used to advertise in RCM years ago. I got my 2 a-4's in the days when you could call their number and someone would answer. They are both working flawlessly to this day.

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Litco Lottery - 9/23/2002 6:17:54 AM   
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Looking at the pic, those look like 4 lm317's at the bottom on
the heat sinks. I'm sure Litco could upgrade those to
something capable of sending more current than 1A.
It looks like there are 4 diodes at the top right along with
a big electrolytic capacitor.
I am curious as to what those are for since this is supposed to
be dc powered.

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Non Alpha 4 Users - 9/24/2002 4:38:38 AM   
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This is getting interesting......we non Alpha 4 users should start taking bets on who gets in and who doesn’t.

I own an old Litco Multicycle that is about 15 plus years old. It still works perfectly, though it hasn’t been used that strenuously. His stuff might be a little crude on the inside but it works on the outside.

I don’t need an Alpha 4......but based on other user comments I would not hesitate buying one.

Someday I might try and get one just to experience the glow of satisfaction of owning one. Become a part of the legacy that other Alpha 4 owners experience.

If I had one I would display it in a nice glass case and never use it.


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Litco Lottery - 9/28/2002 5:13:33 AM   
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I got lucky too. Got on the list for Oct 2nd ship date. Had no Idea I'd get in on one of the first runs. Had to come up with the cash by Sep 28th. Had to scratch a bit since I thought I'd have a couple of months to come up with the coin.

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litco charger - 10/17/2002 10:20:15 PM   
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I just can't understand the fuss with so many good cyclers around that will more than do the trick for us modelers. If they don't want to expand, then let them keep their charger. I, for one will not participate in that game that they are playing. Many people think that the more that it costs, and the harder it is to get, makes it better. NO WAY

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Re: litco charger - 10/17/2002 11:24:50 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by doubleloop
I just can't understand the fuss with so many good cyclers around that will more than do the trick for us modelers. If they don't want to expand, then let them keep their charger. I, for one will not participate in that game that they are playing. Many people think that the more that it costs, and the harder it is to get, makes it better. NO WAY [/QUOTE]

I wish I could say that was the reason people wanted them so bad. However, it isn't. The charger fills a need that doesn't exist elsewhere in a single charger.

That need, is the requirement to charge the larger aerobatic planes with 3 and 4 batteries, whether its NiCad or NiMH, all in one package that is easy to use. This doesn't exist in other chargers, unless you pay lots or, or buy multiple charger.

Consider this. You are at a contest or event. You have two planes that need to be charged and turned around for the next day. You also have your transmitter that needs to be charged. You want to setup a charger, then leave it, and not be a slave to the charger moving it from one battery to the next until they are all done. Basically, you have 9 batteries that need to be all charged and ready for the next days flying.

With dual Alpha's, all one needs to do is connect everything up at the end of flying, and go have dinner then retire to the camper for the night. In the morning everything will be ready.

With one Alpha, they can setup one plane/transmitter at the end of flying, then move the charger to the other plane just before going to sleep. In the morning, everything will be ready.

If you don't have an alpha, you either need 4 or more dual port chargers, or a more expensive 4 port charger. I've looked at every conceivable option available, and have yet to find something that will be as useful, easy, and versatile as the Alpha.

I am not defending Litco, as I think they suck as a business.
And when I do find an alternative, I'm going to be the first do dump the Alpha's solely based on the pains Litco goes through to make life difficult for its customers. No check, no credit cards, or order list, must send an e-mail within a 2 minute window, no confirmation or response if you are not 'accepted' on the list, very short warranty period, must send you payment within a specific window or you're order is canceled, no phone calls, and an order cycle of 6 months (ie, 3 month wait to get on the list, 3 months for your item to ship).

If they didn't fill a very specific need, they wouldn't still be in business. Once competition enters the scene, I estimate their order list with dry up once the word gets around.


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Litco Lottery - 10/18/2002 12:04:12 AM   
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Stephen sites the reasons I purchased a more expensive Sirius Quad charger. Yes it was $100 more, but I was able to get one and if needed I can contact Sirius for warranty issues or questions which, by the way, I have not had to do.

The Quad charger handles 4 batteries both nicad and nimh. While it doesn't have a cycler, another $50 or $60 for the Sirius Test, I don't have a need for a cycler at the field.

Anyways, I spent more but I received the charger in a couple of weeks and I know I can get hold of Sirius if needed.

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Litco Charger - 10/18/2002 7:15:12 AM   
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Please don't misunderstand. I don't know from personal experience, but from what I have read and heard is that the litco charger is the best, BUT, it would not be worth the hassle, and from what I heard about the Co. I just would'nt ever do business with a Co. that is so independent and thoughtless about the customer. God forbid, you were sent a unit with something wrong with it. I can imagine the trouble and wait for the unit to ever come back to you. That is if at all they woild accept responsibility.
No, I will go about looking for another unit that will come close to the litco, So that when I bought it( forget the price) I will not get hassled or have to get in line. My dignity is worth more than that!
Stop buying this product and just see how fast litco will wake up.
Read rthorne about his Sirius Quad Charger, That's the Co. I would do business with. The extra cost is worth it!

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Re: litco charger - 10/18/2002 7:47:41 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by doubleloop
I just can't understand the fuss with so many good cyclers around that will more than do the trick for us modelers. If they don't want to expand, then let them keep their charger. I, for one will not participate in that game that they are playing. Many people think that the more that it costs, and the harder it is to get, makes it better. NO WAY [/QUOTE]

I got mine about 5 years ago when they weren't hard to get. And the fuss is there is no charger on the market that can do what this one can do period.
All of you that don't like the way he does business, your only hurting yourself, because he is still in business.
You can spend what you want, but you are not going to find anything like it.
The only people that are negative about this charger are the ones that have never owned on.

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Litco Lottery - 10/18/2002 8:28:32 AM   
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I tried in the last shot and got in, mine is due next week
so I will see what all the hoopla is about.
I do have 3 batteries to charge so wall warts no longer cut it
and it is going to be put to immediate use.

Granted the company from its website does not inspire any confidence however it appears to have many years of good
reviews from owners otherwise I think many would not buy it.

I agree it is a hassle to go thru the motions to attempt to get one. But if I wasn't successful I doubt I would let it bother me.

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