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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 6:10:22 AM   
flatlandmike



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Status: offline 		just to let ya know i set up dual ele on my first WH extra with a 8103 and the second WH extra with 9303 and the 9303 is way better no lag time between the 2 services and the program of the radio took 20 seconds as apposed to the 8103 that took me 30 minutes and it was still a work in progress when the plane got jacked

alls well that ends well and long live the new extra call letters KE-1-300s


PS i set these elevators up so good that with no sub trim and equal ATV both ways on both surfaces i have perfect throw through 60° this is a personal triumph for me i have been trying to do this for over a year and now i understand how to do it now

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 6:55:47 AM   
Tired Old Man


 

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Status: offline 		Ralph,

With all due respect, if I wanted to spend that much I'd get the whole radio with a 10X and not be one channel short.

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 7:00:58 AM   
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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 4:11:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pat asked me to review some of my building experiences with the Edge yesterday but I was pressed for time so I thought I would relay a few things that I did. First I knew that that battery pack was marginal so I brought a second fully charged pack with me, it doesn't do any good if you don't use it! Also, the JR 631 is not adequate. The Edge arrived without a tank floor so I made one and after installing it I realized that if I glued it in I would have poor access to the landing gear bolts so I glued foam to the top of the hatch thus holding the tank in place with pressure and I glued a piece of balsa to the fuselage in back of the tank this seemed to work well. The canopy was attached with Formula 560 canopy glue and double sided tape, it stayed attached through the crash. This is the first time I used carbon fiber tubing to make control links. I first tried to cut it with a Dremel cut off wheel this tended to burn and fray the tube, I then tried a very fine toothed hobby saw and found that by applying light pressure and taking my time it worked well. Pat indicated later the he uses a larger cut off wheel that works well. If any of you are interested I'll try to take a picture of the stand I made and post it.

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 5:28:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bill you did an awesome job on this, as you do with all your planes. You've got the patience and care that it takes to be a real builder. It's been a while since I've been to Copper, maybe I'll have to head up there soon so I can see all of you, and to see that awesome field too of course. Currently I'm in the building stage with all of my planes. I dorked my SE. I'm still lamenting that loss. But the good new is that Lynn was sitting there and says, "I guess he needs a new plane now." So I took her up on it and got a Seagull Edge and put an ST 90 into it. Unfortunately, in none of the Seagull advertising, do they mention that the plane has only 671 sq inches of wing area. That, in my opinion, is the big flaw in that plane, and that's the reason it was such a disappointment to me, and it's the reason why at deadstick the plane falls like a rock with a suicidal purpose. Everything else on the Seagull Edge is great, just the wings are too small.
Right now I'm doing a fast assembly on a Hanger 9 Twist. I'm putting my FX .46 w/Macs muffler into that one. That'll be my fun plane. As awesome as this Wild Hare 120 size Edge looks to me, I don't think my ST 90 will be enough to have all the fun I want to have with the plane at 11 to 11.5 lbs. So I've ordered an A*******s Edge in the 60-90 size which I think will serve my purposes somewhat better. Not that I don't think the WH version is awesome, I just think it's a bit too big for the engine that I've got. Now if the officials at WH want to give me a Saito 1.40 to put in there, I won't object, and I'll happily order the new WH plane . Yeah right... HEHEHEHEHE! Well, it was worth the try! Anyways, I just wanted to say Hi Bill! Later guys.

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 6:21:02 PM   
RTK


 

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ORIGINAL: Silversurfer

Ralph,

With all due respect, if I wanted to spend that much I'd get the whole radio with a 10X and not be one channel short.


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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 6:37:08 PM   
Sky Surfer



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Status: offline 		I'm still trying to find a way to get a 9303 w/o the significant other killing me. Of course I'd consider selling all of my JR gear and getting a 9C. But anyhoot, a 10x or a 14z are silly to me. I'll go with those radios if I win the California Lotto or someone pays me to fly and buys me the equiptment through a sponsership. Neither of which is very likely to happen...

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 7:08:01 PM   
Tired Old Man


 

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Expanding on the planes qualities a little more, it has enough wing area to permit the wider performance envelope using smaller engines without limiting it's manuverability. Far too many aircraft that have hit the market in recent years were designed with wings so small in area that they had very high loadings at the manufcaturers suggested weight. That almost always resulted in a plane that either was hard to land or "snappy" in flight, or both. Not so the Wild Hare.

The Wild Hare 1.20 Edge has been designed with the intention of greatly improving the flight qualities of smaller aerobats. It has suceeded in this extremely well. In fact, it's my opinion that it is considerable better than at least two other that I am personally acquainted with.


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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 9:59:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Think an OS 160FX would be enough in this plane at 5200 ft. to do 3D or would I need a Moki 1.8?

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 10:55:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ben beyer

Think an OS 160FX would be enough in this plane at 5200 ft. to do 3D ?


I think the OS 1.60 would be awesome, The Moki is OK but a lot heavier. At altitude you want power, not weight. The lighter OS engine can handle a little more nitro if altitude bothers it, but I think it will be just fine. I wish I owned a 1.60, why, I might just swap a plane for one! (hint hint).

TF

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 11:02:06 PM   
ben beyer



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Status: offline 		I don't have a 1.60FX yet despite the fact i've been looking for a plane to take one. Wanna trade a 28% all Yellow Edge with the cowl cut for a ZDZ 50 NG, DA 50, G62, etc. for one of the glow Edges?

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 11:15:51 PM   
Tired Old Man


 

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Status: offline 		I've got a Moki 1.8 with a Bisson muffler and the radial mount back plate I'll trade for an RCS 1.8 gasser

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 11:37:11 PM   
RTK


 

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Status: offline 		Nice plane Tom.

If Pat says it flies very light I believe it, and you have another winner. I have not had the chance to fly his WH Giles(don't know if he would), but I have flown his other Wildhares and they are great.

Ralph

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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/19/2005 11:59:42 PM   
airborneSGT



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Status: offline 		Tom,

You say you need an OS 1.60?? Hrmm, perhaps we can arrange a trade I will let you know. How well would this Edge fly with a 100 two stroke? I had one in a Funtana 90 I have since sold. Cant have a good engine sitting around with no plane now can we?


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RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings - 3/20/2005 1:56:10 AM   
Mutt


 

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Status: offline 		buy a real edge instead of them anchors they call wild hare