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I am glad to see the new Sport Flying forum. Since this is a new forum it will take a while for everyone to find us, and to attract a group of "regulars" that hang out here.
Since we don't have many threads in this forum yet, I thought it would be nice for everyone to share what planes they do their sport flying with. I agree with some of the comments in the Clubhouse that any plane can be a sport flier, but my only true sport plane is a now discontinued Great PlanesTrainer 60. It is one of my all time favorite kits, and is capable of much more than its name implies.
I clipped the wings and removed almost all the dihedral. It looks like a trainer, but is happy flying around at 100 MPH, and when you crank on the sticks it makes you wonder if there is a 3D plane somewhere in it lineage. Mine is over ten years old, and sports a 20 year old Webra 61.
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I might add that depfife's plane was a feature in a short article in R/C reports magazine last year saying the same things that depfife has said.
This type plane came in a variety of names like the RCM trainer 60 with construction articles at two different times, years apart, at least three Bridi versions with different length wings and tail positions and then as the GP trainer 60 in two different versions. Joe Bridi was the original designer.
I have a Bridi kit that I havn't built.
There's a GP Trainer 60 at the flying field at my home with a ASP 61
They can be a favorite plane even built as originally intended with a normal engine on it.
it's nice
Jim
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I got distracted as I was on the chat line a little bit ago.
What I wanted to add is that there is no reason why a pattern plane, a fun flyer, or a 3D plane cannot be a good sport plane.
You just don't have such a big engine on them and you run low rates with maybe some expo if you have a computer radio.
The Sig Something Extra is as forgiving on landing as any plane. Yet can perform pretty good also. It can fill many rolls as a first -second plane, as a fun flyer, a pretty fast hot dog, a Sunday flyer, or something approaching 3D.
Enjoy,
Jim
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my lazy sunday flier is/was the Seagull PC-9. I had a magnum 52xls on it and it was a blast. It looked pretty decent for stand off scale and had fixed gear but it was a blast to fly. On high rates it was pretty aerobatic and handled the wind niceley. Fun plane for simple "sport flying"
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Agreed, A SSE on high rates will flat spin well. Also go across the field at half throttle using an OS46AX turning an APC 11X7 and crank in full ailerons on high rates. Now there is a roll rate to be proud of.
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Here's my wee baby, she's getting heaps of exposure on here coz I love her. Started life as a Thunder Tiger Giles 202-40, then started showing her age(not very ladylike) so got treated to new clothes and a heart transplant. Not in these pics is the MDS 48 and tuned pipe that now run inside the cowling. Inverted passes at high-speed low alt. are a peach, it's SO steady, and it's taught me so much about rolling and rolling circles.
The floats aren't a joke, I really did that, flew 6 times off Lake Windermere back in 2003, the 1st event at the lake. Thought I was gonna get my 15 mins of fame, but the TV crew didn't turn up.
Party piece is a move borrowed from full-size pilot Greg Poe, called Newton's Folley. Start at WOT level flight, pull to 45deg, roll right to knife, then full left rudder, down elevator and left aileron produces an end over end tumble kinda like a waterfall but sliding to the right all the time. Looks seriously dramatic to the unknowing.
Love it to bits, great wee plane, many happy landings to come.
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Mine is my Sig LT 40 with an Irvine .53 converted to Diesel, it can chug around the pattern like a fourstroke or do a loop so large the plane is nearly invisible at the top. When doing a highspeed pass it looks like its going downhill because some serious down elevator is need to keep it from climbing. I also have CG Tiger 60 with a Fox .74 Diesel that is winning me over with its very smooth graceful flight. When I get my T-Rex finished it may boot both of them as my fave.
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My favorite sport planes. Okie doke, here we go; 1. Great Planes Ultra Sport 60 (OS 61 FX, but a OS 91 4-stroke on the next one I build) 2. Sig Hog Bipe (OS 91 4-stroke) 3. GP Slow Poke 40 (OS 52 4-stroke) 4. Dave Patrick Ultimate (YS 120) 5. Balsa USA Thunderbug (OS 46 FX) 6. Great Planes Ultimate (OS 46 AX) 7. Sig Something Extra (OS 46 FX) ANYTHING with 2 wings!!!!
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My old apache 40 trainer with many years on it with a irvine 40 diesel sedately cruised the sky for many years this year it got an engine upgrade to a irvine 53 with a davis diesel head and it is a new animal quick, decent basic acrobatics I have 15 others air ready planes scale thru a twist 40 bit I really like this one now for a smaller plane I have a vmar cub converted from electric to a TT10 with a diesel head took out most of the dihedral when I did the wing I fly this at the electrics sites very quiet and a fun flyer the geared electrics the guys fly make more noise than this one
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My favorite has to be the Ugly Stick or the Tidewater Super Pronto. Two different planes with two different flight difference's, but two of the best kit's made. Good Luck, Dave
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My favorite is the Ultra Stick 40 with a Saito 56 for a combination of Size, economy, and will do any maneuver that I can and lands great too. No flaps. They were not on the plane when Hobbsy gave it to me but the Ultra Stick is good enough without them. Seems to handle the wind well. I just land it on the main wheels first in gusty weather.
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