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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 2/18/2012 3:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Could someone who has received the pdf file from the original poster please upload it so that the rest of us could obtain it? Much appreciated. Thanks.

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 2/18/2012 6:05 AM   
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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 4/15/2012 10:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Many years ago I noticed that when you turn a Scat Cat 500 fuselage upside down, it looks just like a Stik if you flatten out the nose part. With spare parts from other planes lying around (dural gear, motor mount, OS 46 FX etc.) I've scratch built several Stiks using quickee 500 specifications such as the scat cats, but using a symmetrical airfoil wing instead of the Scats semi. This makes a great flying and very economical version of a Stik that fits in the back of your car with the wings on. I've read somewhere that pylon racers in the South have sometimes been modified to look like Stiks, so I'm sure this isn't the first time this has been done.

There must be more versions of the Stik than another other plane I can think of in RC history. Funny, but when I first saw a Stik at the flying field, I thought it was the strangest thing I had ever seen, kind of insect like, but the design grows on you, helped by its great flying characteristics. Now I think a Stik is a thing of beauty when all dressed up in its World War 1 livery. I can't help but wonder if Phil Kraft and his crew came up with the final design of the Stik, looking like a world war 1 Fokker, while listening to that silly song on the radio that came out about the same time, Snoopy vs. the Red Baron, by the Royal Guardsman. Here is a link on youtube to the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxzg_iM-T4E This top 40's hit came out in 1966, the same time as the Grid Leaks plan was published. Anyone else ever wondered about that?

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 4/16/2012 2:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey IfIf thanks for posting the video. I have never made the connection between the song and the ugly stik or any other stik. You will be pleased to know I have a pristine 45rpm copy of snoopy vs the red baron. I can play it on my guitar and have played this song for many years. Have you ever heard the flip side of SvRB? It is one of the best blues songs I have ever heard title "I Needed You". Oh lordy does it have soul. I don't know that you will ever find it but heck, it may be on youtube.

I love the "Snoopy" series of songs. Why in the world can't we be so innocent and simple again. What in the world have we became? Sorry, I just miss my youth.

Well guess what? Here it is. Lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRhv1TZkePw

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 4/16/2012 8:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, yeah, that Royal Guardsman blues is right on. In their videos, they are obviously influenced by the British Invasion bands, but it sounds like they were drawing their music from the same source as the Brits, American blues. Great tune, all I knew of them was their commercial Snoopy stuff. I was 15 in 1966, and Snoopy and the Royal Guardsman were everywhere. If Phil Kraft were alive I'd ask him if the Snoopy craze or the Royal Guardsman's songs didn't have anything to do with settling on the final Stik design. It just doesn't seem like a coincidence, that they came up with this red and white cartoon like world war 1 plane, exactly when the media was saturated with Snoopy vs. the Red Baron.

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 5/7/2012 11:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello. I JUST GOT OF RCM PLANS OF THE UGLY STICK, BUT AM HAVING TROUBLE INTERPRETING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE JIG TO ASSEMBLE THE WINGS. Can you help me?  My e-mail is eecheverriaa@msn.com

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 5/8/2012 12:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why all caps?

Anyway, I didn't use a jig on mine. If you have the ribs laser cut, then they should have tabs so you can build it on a normal flat board.

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 5/12/2012 7:59 PM   
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Status: online 		For what it's worth and what you can with an Ugly Stick,   Here are a few pic of one that is about  20 years old and still flying.   Powered by a  O.S. Max 61,   J R 7202 radio.     The wings are  swept with no diheadral and a flying stab.  The wing was moved forward to allow for CG for the swept wing.  So the nose is a little shorter.   Running on home made trike landing gear and small wheels.    All the ribs have been lightened, however,  it didn't lighten it much.    Covered in  Yellow transparent MonoKote and Monokote graphics.    Even though this is  scratch built and modified,  it's still an Ugly Stick.

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 5/12/2012 8:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		A very nice looking model, but I have always understood that a flying stab meant the entire stabilizer rotated on a pivot. It looks like you are using elevators attached to the stabilizer. In any event, I like the looks of the transparent yellow!

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 5/12/2012 8:44 PM   
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Status: online 		You're right,  a flying stab in modelling terms means the whole stab moves.   Maybe I should have said,  lifting stab.   The stab provides lift over the ribs and the elevator changes the lift like flaps or ailerons on a wing.     I hesitate using the term   "built up" stab bacause in modelling terms "built up"  usually means a stab that is hollow but not necessarily having an air foil, instead of saying " slab stab".   

I think the  lifting stab just looks so much better than the  original slab stab. 

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 5/26/2012 10:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is it : this tread gave me a lot of infos about and this is the result : from the original Grid Leaks plan ( found online and resized full scale ) , apart from scallops and tail dragger U/C



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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 5/26/2012 11:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice looking model, Great Job!....Gene

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 8/2/2012 7:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please send me the Ugly Stik plans. Thanks

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 8/20/2012 10:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		sir., it would be really kind of u if u could pls mail me the pdf plan for ugly stik., i have been trying really hard for a real long tym now., somehow managed to get thru this post of ur's sir., it would be of great help if u could mail me d plan. my id is  machinelement@gmail.com.
eagerly awaiting for ur reply n thanking u in anticipation..

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 8/29/2012 5:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see the Stik is the 2014 VRCS theme plane! Should be some nice ones being built.....Gene

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 9/15/2012 5:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Does anyone have a PDF of the original Ugly stick plans? I see the other that was posted in this thread but when I opened it, it appeared to be broken up in about 20 smaller sheet or tiles.I'm looking for a full sheet set like those that came in the original kits. Thanks.

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 9/15/2012 7:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have an original set of plan for the ugly stick 40 by Great planes bought in 1979. I do believe there is 2 full sheets, email me if interested. rccrasher65@yahoo.com.

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 9/15/2012 10:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		HELLO. I HAVE ORIGINAL UGLY STIK PLAN ( 2 SHEETS). E-MAIL ME. eecheverriaa@msn.com. Only pay postage and I'll send you.

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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 4/29/2013 5:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello CCRC1,

Do you still have the original ugly stik PDF file available to send.  If so, please send to RCalvert@L-T-C.com.  Thanks in advance.

Bob
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RE: Phil Krafts Original Ugly Stick - 4/29/2013 5:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello CCRC1,

Do you stil have the original ugly stik info available on a PDF file?  If so, please send to RCalvert@L-T-C.com   Thanks in advance.

Bob
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