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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 12/24/2005 6:34:07 PM   
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Do you mean that YOUR Honey Bee has already the bell / hiller mix installed ? Mine is one year old version and it hasn't. If you saw the link I sent you you may spot the differnces between the old version and the new one called "Twister CP V2". The latest one comes with 2 X 1000mAh Lipo packs, carbon blades and bell/hiller on board. I saw it yesterday at a hobby shop AND IT WAS AWESOME. It flew MUCH better than the older version. I tested it and the next thing to do was to order the upgrades

Just minutes ago I received the reply from "www.galaxymodels.com" saying that the order will be at this evening's post.

Santa is comming


At last Santa came with yesterday's post. I disassembled the rotor haed and put the bell/hiller as well as the carbon blades at once. I had some troubles at first cause I over tightened those little screws on each blade holder, but when I realized what was happening and loosened the screws a little EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING, changed. The bird has become VERY precise. All that it needs now is tiny inputs on the cyclic stick. Without having flown it more than 1 pack yet, I estimate that inputs are devided by half now. The tracking of these blades is awesome. And the balance too !!!. They are so smooth and so precisly manufactured that I look at them as a work of art !!!. The trailing edge could easily be a knife's edge.
I totaly recommend both carbon blades and the bell/hiller mixer upgrade.

Merry Christmas to everyone



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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 12/25/2005 11:37:23 AM   
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Can anyone put my mind at rest at this one: Ive got a new honeybee cp2 (not flown yet) and if i hold the rotor head and turn the main gear theres about 1/2 inch back lash, first reaction was the sheer pin might be broken, pulled that out and thats ok, so on closer inspection the play is in 2 parts , first theres some play at the sheer pin , i havent took the head of yet but only thing i can think of the hole in the main shaft must be large. And secondly theres play at the bottom of the main gear, so overall its amplfied in what i think is quite a lot of backlash at the blades, any remarks on this one...thanks

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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 12/25/2005 12:08:56 PM   
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Is the HB CP2 the one that the main gear seperates from the main shaft? I have not put my hands on it, but I guess that maybe something is loose at that point. Second thought, what does this "1/2 inch back lash" matter ? Just checked mine. It has that back lash too !!!

By the way. Here are some pictures I took today. The details of the bell/hiller rotor head and the state of art carbon blades.

It's a bright sunny day today in Athens, Greece

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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/10/2006 2:57:29 AM   
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im a noob.. im looking at the honeybee as a first heli... should i get the 4ch or the 6ch 3d?

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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/10/2006 12:40:39 PM   
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Fishy2k8 - As a noob, the advantages of an FP heli are that there is less to set up and adjust, and less to break when you crash, they're also a bit more robust in a crash. They can be rather sluggish to control vertically. You will reach its limits and need to upgrade.

The advantages of a CP heli are that they are more responsive vertically, and a bit more stable (higher head speed) It will be a while before you want to upgrade to a Trex

I went straight for the 6ch HB CP2, but I came back into RC helis after a 20 year layoff... (Schluter .60 thing as a teenager)

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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/10/2006 5:22:30 PM   
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My advice is go for the FP since you 've never flown a heli before. Because of it's lower head speed is less stable in a pilots hands but you are not a pilot yet. Besides that you will be afraid of the more than double head speed of the CP. Because of that speed every crash of the CP equals a new pair of blades (to say the least). Believe me I 've been there. Go the easy, sure, but time consuming way


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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/10/2006 5:50:50 PM   
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Ronairtravel, dont worry about your HB. Mines exactly the same regarding the backlash and it hovers excellently. The only true way to put your mind at rest though is to get it outta the box and start using it!!

Batfalcon... nice pics! those CF blades just make it look awesome.
Just a quick question about the bell hiller upgrade.... I thought that the newer HB CP2 (EK1H E005) had the same head as the bell hiller, but looking at mine it looks different from your pictures. or have I got my models mixed up?

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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/10/2006 6:08:03 PM   
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Batfalcon... nice pics! those CF blades just make it look awesome.
Just a quick question about the bell hiller upgrade.... I thought that the newer HB CP2 (EK1H E005) had the same head as the bell hiller, but looking at mine it looks different from your pictures. or have I got my models mixed up?


Well to be honest, this heli is the "Twister CP" as they call it in Europe. The other day I saw the newer version called "Twister CP V2" and it had that bell/hiller mix, the carbon blades and 2 Lipos 1000 mAh in the box !!!. I got envy and the next day, after a little searching on the web I found out the www.galaxymodels.co.uk, carrying both the carbon blades and the bell/hiller as an upgrade. I couldn't resist and the result is what you see. During holidays I had the chance to fly it A LOT. Well it's a totaly different machine now. Both upgrades are highly recommended as well as the web store .


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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/11/2006 5:00:22 AM   
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Hello all, i finally got the parts i needed to get my HB 2 back in the air. i had one of the ball links thats on the little control arm that controls the blade pitch break off in a hard landing, i searched all over the net and it seemed everyone was out of stock on that one part, the part distribtion is called the rotor head assem. and it has two of the little links that broke. but she flys as good as before!!! i've upgraded mine a little, i got the super strength landing gear and a set of carbon blades on the way when they get the in stock. a friend of mine has a HB2 and he just put the twin tail motor set-up on it. stillk don;t have a flight report on it yet cause he's waiting on one more part to get it goin!!! but both of ours has the tail pulse problem alittle not too bad though. here are some pcs of the upgraded landing gear and my custom canopy paint job i did.
today my e-sky co-co lama 2 came in. if you don't know this is a co-axle heli with no tail rotor. it flys great!!! i will post pics of it hen i can.


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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/16/2006 4:17:51 AM   
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today turned out to be a great day for flying here in the south, it was amazing 45mph winds yesterday and about 8mph today until about 4pm and it died down to nothing!!! i got my friend to come up to the flight line with me. i been flying my e-sky lama 2 alot in farward flight but flet scared about doing with my honey bee. i let him make sure it was still trimmed out. then i hovered, and hovered, and hover. and then he said go ahead fly it faward. i flew it about 10 feet and then chickened out i did this about 3 times and then he aid go ahead and do it. so i got it about 5 more feet higher (15') pushed her farward and did some real nice turns!!! i flew a couple good laps and then brought her back down and landed. me and my buddy had huge grins on our face cause he knows as well as everyone else i' really learning this heli stuff. a couple of our club members who fly raptors and t-rexs kind of turn their noses up at the small helis like the blade and honey bee's but i thik after today they see that these heli's are just as challenging and if you can fly them then you are a geting good!!!

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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/16/2006 6:20:38 AM   
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Congtrats BadBoy__MadMikey. I know the feeling. Stuck in hover, affraid to go forward and FLY. I have / had the same issue here. I am practicing indoors and the room isn't so big to make manouvers, so I consider myself as an expert hovering pilot but at the same time not so good in flight.


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RE: Esky honey bee CP - 1/16/2006 6:40:57 AM   
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well i'll tell ya, once you push it farward it holds!!! on my last flight i did a pass about 10 feet over our heads and just the sound the rotors made was so great!!! this thing really has it's own sound!!! i was mostly doing left turns when my buddy said do some right turns so i did. the biggest things i learned today was during farward flight to come out of the collective a bit so it doesn't flare up some, and alsoat times i really got out of the collective alot during flight, you just have to remember to get back into it or it will drop fast!! also i learned how to use the ailrons druing turns to make nice smooth leaning turns, not just rudder flat turns like my lama does. but when you does nice smooth turns in farward flight it's just so cool!!! my last flight the sun was going down and a few times i couldn't tell which way the tail was, so i was twitching the tail some. so i picked up a can of neon prange spray paint and painted the vertical fin and i have the landing gear upgrade and it has a horizontal fin and i painted it too!!! i hope it helps some. mt new heli will more than likely be a Quick heli 3-d i can't remember the exact name but my buddy is sponsored by them and had one of his at the feild today, even though he's still building it. it's an all aluminum heli, all the parts are cnc and lazor cut, it's the ones that have think flat aluminum plates for landing skids. but when you see the all aluminum head unit, you just loose it!!! he's going to run a himaxx inrunner motor on it!!! instead of an outrunner like most do, but it's a quick heli


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