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OperaGhost -> Walkera Review (3/19/2005 2:48:59 AM)
it is with great chagrin that i post this. We (helighost.com coming) have 4 walkera products. the basic design is good. i have made many posts regarding this, and its been a hot topic, so to speak. so for those of you thinking of taking the plunge, here is my final word on walkera. DONT DO IT! i emailed walkera at haudy@haudy.com (the contact for walkera) a week ago. no reply. also, hobbyjapan2000 is a very poor provider. no reply. the helis are fine, but, youll need to replace servos, some replace entire radio setup, and youll get ZERO customer service. if you want a shogun 400, get one. the 35 is a fine heli, for less money. but you WILL spend the difference in making the 35 work as it should. as to hobby japan2000 claim that each heli is flight tested three times, this is not true. i have long supported the walkera products. i shall do so no longer. all helis need to be gone over carefully, regardless of the manufacturer. however, walkera and nobbynippon have distinguished themselves as being the least worthy heli manufacturer/distributor. i STRONGY advise to not purchase from them. for the 200 dollars you might save, you would have a happy shogun 400. or an e-sky (crappy website, but not as bad as walkeras). the E-sky product is superior in quality and price. here is the walkera website for you to see for yourself. www.walkera.com the site is written in very poor english. i cannot say enough bad about this company. do not buy from them. good luck flying, buy an Esky, or an ECO, anything but a walkera product. you will receive crap.

chronus -> RE: Walkera Review (3/19/2005 3:01:13 AM)
way to go mate![:D][;)]

cptsnoopy -> RE: Walkera Review (3/19/2005 4:50:25 AM)
I am quite amused at the subject of this thread. :) I have been lucky enough not to need customer support for the walkera helicopters that i have. i agree with everything said about the helicopter itself. if I had to do it over again I would by an original design and manufactured helicopter from Japan or the USA... A funny thing happened today that i have to share. I was flying my 22d and I let it climb above the rooftops where it got caught up in the breeze blowing over the houses. as it headed for a 20' tall palo-verde tree i went higher to get over the top. for whatever reason i was not successful in getting the thing to go upwind enough to get it back. that last thing i remember is it starting to spiral and as it descended below treetop height i just cut the throttle and sighed... about two houses away i found the wreck and was totally suprised to see that the only thing broken was the left landing skid! 20 minutes later and some ca glue the thing is on its skids again and has had a couple of living room flights... so even a crappy helicopter can surprise you once in awhile... :D

R-Rudder -> RE: Walkera Review (3/19/2005 9:03:46 AM)
Just wondering what takes Esky so long to make their own tailmotorless version HOneybee

R-Rudder -> RE: Walkera Review (3/19/2005 9:08:39 AM)
I don't care how good the performance and quality of the HOneybee is, as long as it uses tail motor, it's good for ppl who sell tail motors, it's not good for rc heli pilots.

batfalcon -> RE: Walkera Review (3/21/2005 11:39:47 AM)
Hi all, Well I wasn't that lucky when I got my "Walkera 4" 1 month ago. As OperaGhost claims I had major problems with all the rc system. They replied to my mails V E R Y V E R Y S L O W L Y (got the reply 1 week after each sending) and finally they said that a new complete rc system has been sent as replacement (TX + RX). Never got the chance to fly the @%&!$@@ thing. I purchased a second one called "Twister" from a local hobby shop, which is IDENTICAL with the "Walkera", except the electronics and I kept the first for spare parts. They have E-Sky electronics installed and so far things are going as expected. The problem I had with the rc was a continous uncontrollable servo movement, regardless of what servo I had on. Something like a glitch [:o] Twister link By the way since I am interested in looks as well as in performance, I posted the following in another thread but I didn't get any responce so I thought that maybe I get luckier here: Do you know where I can find bodies for the "Honey Bee", or the "Walkera 4", or the "Twister FP". Next thing to do is get the flying machine LOOK LIKE an helicopter. At least when seen from a distance . Post a link if you can. Thanks, Michael

Norrmannen -> RE: Walkera Review (3/21/2005 12:26:13 PM)
If you read some more posts on the Twister/Esky/etc you'll find that lots of people have extended tail motor life drasticly by putting on 1 or 2 heat sinks, that includes myself. Have 3 tail motors as spares but haven't changed a single one since i started using a heat sink... If the heli does unexpected things, flys off on it's own etc, it's probably time to change crystals, they don't like crashes much and that is a part of the learning process...

OperaGhost -> RE: Walkera Review (3/22/2005 4:09:17 AM)
I finally got a response from Walkera (a week after sending original email) Here is is, posted in its entirety. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:33:57 +0800, Betty <haudy@haudy.com> wrote: > Hi,Drivin for 5， > > I am afraid you make mistake of our company ! > Did you buy seme products from us ? - Hide quoted text - > hich one you contact ? > This is the first time ,we receive you email . > I believe what you said like yourself doing ! > We don't know what's matter with you ,like a sick poeple said ? > It's a shame you words from your mouth ! > You'd better image if there is no chinese people how you can live but if > there is no your people ,we can live happy . > If some products is junk , then it is for mice using , we love them , we > would like to help them :-) ! > yours, > Betty I look for no satisfaction from Walkera, and must reiterate that the products they sell are junk. with many aftermarket parts and time, our walkera fleet flies, but i would not do it again, or advise anyone to do it a first time. they sell junk, and as you can see, their customer service is none existant. We have collectively put over 1000 dollars US into walkeras coffer, yet they can find no emails, or hire someone that speaks english. If my largest customer base spoke spanish, for example, and i took their money, i would see to it that SOMEBODY spoke spanish. Walkera cannot be bothered to do this, nor can they be bothered to support the defective products they ship. I cannot advise strongly enough to AVOID all things walkera. now that the anti walkera rant (seems common, over time i see) is over, HeliHobby is our preferred choice for parts. they are fast, and they **** parts that actually work! refreshing, after walkera experience (walkera ships defects). they have a nice line of canopies for virtually any make of heli, even accomodating retractable gear. check their site out at Helihobby.com. good selection of other links as well. also, re: the tail motor vs the direct system, i prefer the direct drive system. however of the 5 helis we fly, we have more hours on the honeybee II than any other, and its still on its first tail rotor motor. its a practicable alternative, the HB is a superior heli, with good support and electronics that actually work. if you cant go top o the line, so to speak, go honeybee. do NOT go walkera. walkera is trash. hope this helps, sorry if i got demagogish, but walkera is really stuck in my craw, and to insult me on top of it....not a compay worth doing business with.

oops -> RE: Walkera Review (3/22/2005 11:24:31 AM)
Hi OperaGhost, Did you purchase the product from Walkera, or from HobbyJapan2000 because it's not clear from your post. From the reply they sent you, it appears Walkera are suggesting you bought it from a retailer. David

OperaGhost -> RE: Walkera Review (3/22/2005 11:42:17 AM)
it was purchased from a retailer, hobbyjapan2000. as were the others thats two (2) dragonfly 35s and one (1) dragonfly 22a. i think i see your point, so let me clarify-of three helicopters purchased from HJ2k, all have had serious problems. none of the non walkera products have had these problems. these experiences are only my personal ones, but i would suggest that you search the forums more, its an endemic problem the gist of my email to walkera was that i felt the product was fine, and that with the apparent level of poor quality, perhaps they could find another distributor, if in fact its the distributor that is the problem. the reply, posted elsewhere, was laughable, and is in line with what others have said. its just gonna be a mistake for anyone to purchase from walkera, or hj2k. believe me now, or believe me later lol.

batfalcon -> RE: Walkera Review (3/22/2005 12:51:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: batfalcon They replied to my mails V E R Y V E R Y S L O W L Y (got the reply 1 week after each sending) and finally they said that a new complete rc system has been sent as replacement (TX + RX). Never got the chance to fly the @%&!$@@ thing.... Just to let you guys know; I still haven't received the replacements from "www.happibuy.com". The bad thing is that I not only expect the RC system, but some other parts that I ordered later on. It's been 11 days since the payment confirmation. I am not sure though if the responsibility is ALL from their part. I have a little suspection (at the back of my head) that maybe the Hellenic Posts is involved in this delay. I even think that perhaps some guys in the postal service take advantage of "free RC parts".

rctradertwo -> RE: Walkera Review (3/22/2005 2:31:24 PM)
i just recently bought a 22a walkera off of ebay from someone that bought it from a retailer. So here is the story of my findings. I wanted to save money so i bought a walkera 22a. i got it cheap, and that is exactly what i got....a cheap heli! i took it out of the box and it was ready to fly.....after a few modifications. i replaced one servo, two main shaft pins that were sheared off even before flight, replace the weak main gear that was already stripped after one minute of running the motor. so after i did that i got about a minute of hovering until the tail axle bent and the heli started vibrating so bad that the plastic fin on the tail cracked off. so i glued it back on and packed it up into the box and put it back on ebay. now i have a shogun 400 with a brushless motor and upgrades for only a little bit more. so my advice is spend now and get what you would have to create later. everything i read about the 22a is that it is a great helicopter, once you tun it into a hornet2. so if you want a project then this is your heli. oh yeah and if you thought that the email walkera sent him was unreadable you should check out the instructions that comes with the heli. the only legable part was the legal statement at the end saying that when their pile of junk explodes in mid air and takes your head off they are not responsible.

OperaGhost -> RE: Walkera Review (3/26/2005 12:38:55 AM)
the main gear on the 22a is notoriously weak, and walkera doesnt even have anything approaching customer service. though we have two 35s and one 22a that are reasonably nice helis (after a lot of time an money and work) i cannot recommend them any more. if you have not yet gotten a heli, i would remove walkera from the list of those that i would consider purchasing. the above poster is correct. spend the extra money at the outset for a better heli. you will have 500 into your 35 in a matter of weeks.

Raptor50se -> RE: Walkera Review (3/27/2005 11:24:51 AM)
Hi, My Walkera #35 6ch heli had servo problems. The ebayer seller Hobby_rc have replaced the servos and spare parts which were damaged free of charge. The main problem I have found is that in the hover the heli flys ok but when I put in tail pitch the heli starts to drop due to motor being loaded up. I might try a slightly more powerful motor and see how it goes. The are a few guys locally who have upgraded their Zoom 400 to hacker motors etc and they fly excellent 3D. I havent tried the use the idle up switch and flip it yet. It does have plenty if negative pitch but I think quicker cyclic servos are needed first. The guys here use $30 mini servos from Hitec and they work great for 3d flips,inverted etc. But after flying the Walkera 4ch and 6ch helis my Raptor50Se is much easier to hover and do flips with. Regards Mike

cptsnoopy -> RE: Walkera Review (3/28/2005 8:15:02 AM)
i noticed that some of the ebay auctions for the walkera #4 are showing a head stiffner that screws on just under the blades. I have asked the seller to ship me five of them to cover the walkera helicopters that we have. all of them are fp. i am curious to see if these things help. i have noticed that when the #4 or the 22d is loaded up the blades seem to want to move away from centered on the rotor head causing the death wobbles. i am guessing that is from the way the rotor head is flexing up but who knows? if anyone reading this has tried one of the little metal plates and can post a report please do. if not i will report back after trying one. :)

batfalcon -> RE: Walkera Review (3/28/2005 10:24:53 AM)
cptsnoopy, Since I have both Walkera 4 and Twister FP I have many times interchanged the rotor head and the hub underneath between the two. The twister aka HB has a fiber glass stifner under the rotor head. The Walkera has a similar item made of Aluminum. Personally didn't see any difference in flight, but I am not THAT good pilot to spot a tinny difference. Yesterday I tried the Twister head WITHOUT the stifner. Hovering was a little gelatinus (not very accurate) but I did not had any wobble. Have to say here that I have my blades "clipped" at the trailing edge about 2 mm, so they have to spin quicker to produce enough lift.

rc_lurker -> RE: Walkera Review (3/28/2005 9:04:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: oops Hi OperaGhost, Did you purchase the product from Walkera, or from HobbyJapan2000 because it's not clear from your post. From the reply they sent you, it appears Walkera are suggesting you bought it from a retailer. You were able to discern what Walkera was suggesting? Did we read the same post? It was so much utter non-sense to me. Not one sentence was intelligible in any practical sense. After reading their emailed reply, I will definitely be avoiding Walkera at all costs! David

oops -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 12:01:51 PM)
Hi rc-lurker, quote: You were able to discern what Walkera was suggesting? Did we read the same post? It was so much utter non-sense to me. Not one sentence was intelligible in any practical sense. After reading their emailed reply, I will definitely be avoiding Walkera at all costs! David Yeah, it wasn't clear there either, so I asked... Beleive it or not, the response actually makes some sense when you look at it in context. But it's sad that OperaGhost got burned... That just sucks whichever way you look at it. I'd still buy stuff from Walkera, but I know what I am buying. I'd probably keep away from HJ2000, because I hear bad things about them on this forum. Most stuff I buy from Happibuy.com (slow, but seems reliable) or more recently, hobby_rc (fast, seems very good) from Ebay. They both seem to support the product. Some of what OperaGhost said is correct. Suffice to say that if you live in America, and you want to buy Walkera stuff and don't like taking the risk of ebay, then buy from a US distributor... Some of the hobby sites that advertise on this forum resell Walkera, and are probably fine. It's also cheap stuff. That's OK, if you expect cheap stuff, but you can't buy a Walkera 22a expecting a Hornet II or a Walkera 35 expecting a T-REX. And expect to pay more if you buy from someone else who brings them in and cleans them up. As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. But I'm planning on buying Heli-number-3 at the moment... And unless I see some really cheap T-REXs, it will probably be something from Walkera. David

Norrmannen -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 12:56:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OperaGhost .... or hire someone that speaks english. If my largest customer base spoke spanish, for example, and i took their money, i would see to it that SOMEBODY spoke spanish. I trust you by this imply that their largest customer base are speaking english. Ok guess a lot of them are but do you have any idea how many chinese people there are in this world? [8\|][:D] Maybe, just maybe the US market is not actually the largest? But honestly, I don't really understand why you at all buy anything from anyone that cannot show a US passport..why bother, why not go to the LHS? I can easily figure out that cheap stuff often does not have the same quality as expensive stuff and it's always (often) a gamble buying on the net, sometimes you save a buck sometimes you don't....when you can get helis for $ 100,- you don't have to be an engineer to understand there will be parts that are not rock solid... Would like to see what you wrote to Walkera to get that reply...

Oscar Cederqvist -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 1:15:35 PM)
Why don't you contact the place where you bought it instead of complaining on Walkera. Like Normannen said, if the price is that low and it says it's a clone you couldn't expect a high quality machine. Are all americans as ignorant ass you? Thank good you people live across the atlantic. The sun doesn't circle round the US but the WORLD.

Norrmannen -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 1:22:44 PM)
Tjena Oscar. Et lite hint om du inte vill at dom ska bli arga... ass=arsle as=som [:D]

Oscar Cederqvist -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 1:33:19 PM)
Tackar. [8D] Dumma jänkare[:'(]

Norrmannen -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 1:38:13 PM)
Dom verkar tycka världen ska anpassa sig dom och inte tvärt om lite för ofta...[:D]

craneguy -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 1:47:04 PM)
Are all americans as ignorant ass you? No ! but everyone gets a little peved when stuff isn't right american or not!

Oscar Cederqvist -> RE: Walkera Review (3/29/2005 2:40:31 PM)
Yes, but if the product isn't right it's the seller you should contact, not the factory that made it. Sorry if a came down on the entire US population, my misstake, sorry.

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