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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instru... - 4/8/2006 7:18:49 PM   
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excellent videos eqtrian

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instru... - 4/8/2006 7:32:11 PM   
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VERY NICE VIDS. This will help people who are new and want a good vid.

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instruct... - 5/8/2006 12:46:58 AM   
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It seams as if your up on breaking in new motors. This is why I am typing you. I purchased a used lst and with in 30 minutes I am online at EBAY getting a new motor. Yeap blew it up. With your helpful tips my new motor should last longer. Thankyou for your responce to the old school dude..

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instr... - 5/10/2006 8:02:57 PM   
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WOW!!!! I feel like my head is about to explode! Lots of info here. I'm getting into the nitro thing and trying to get all the info I can. Good thing I am still waiting for my new ride. One of the things I noticed in the manual was to loosen the glow plug if it was too hard to turn the engine over and tighten it after it starts. What gives? The motor is a NX76. Thank you all for the great info here.

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instr... - 5/10/2006 8:13:53 PM   
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This is to cut down on the compression just like a compression release on a motorcycle. Normally this is only needed on a new engine when breaking it in.

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instr... - 5/10/2006 8:22:15 PM   
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Thanks 46u!!! I will definitely keep this forum thread on the stand by!!!

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instruc... - 5/31/2006 3:12:45 AM   
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need some advice Fuelman. I am breaking in an OS .21 RG in a mayhem. i ran two tanks leaving the buggy on the starter box running very rich but reving the idle up and down. then i leaned it a bit on both screws and drove it around bliping the throttle and progressively loading it harder and harder. each tank i leaned out the high end screw a little more and waiting a bit between tanks to cool down with piston ant BDC. Problem is i cant seem to get the temps up beyond about 150. Ive gt the motor running pretty well now and it simply doesnt want to heat up. I am concerned about leaning it too much. Any info on needle settings on the RG on a broken in engine?

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instr... - 5/31/2006 3:20:34 AM   
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There are no set rules for needle settings as there are to many variables. As long as you are getting a good stream of smoke when you nail it and temps are good there should not be a problem. When breaking in an engine if you have problems getting the temperatures up it is a good idea to wrap aluminum foil around the head. Guess it is to late for that. All so you when breaking in an engine you want temperatures to get to at least 190 to 200 and I firmly believe in the heat cycle method!

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instr... - 6/4/2006 2:59:10 PM   
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quote:

need some advice Fuelman. I am breaking in an OS .21 RG in a mayhem. i ran two tanks leaving the buggy on the starter box running very rich but reving the idle up and down. then i leaned it a bit on both screws and drove it around bliping the throttle and progressively loading it harder and harder. each tank i leaned out the high end screw a little more and waiting a bit between tanks to cool down with piston ant BDC. Problem is i cant seem to get the temps up beyond about 150. Ive gt the motor running pretty well now and it simply doesnt want to heat up. I am concerned about leaning it too much. Any info on needle settings on the RG on a broken in engine?


Like 46U mentioned, there is no hard and fast rule for needle settings. When you run it, take it to wide open throttle on a good long stretch and listen! If the engine goes to wide open and then sags or starts to loose power, the high speed needle is too lean. Richen it up until that no longer occurs and then back off a little more for added insurance.
If you are transitioning to wide open and it has a real hard time speeding up and stumbles and never quite comes up on step, it is too rich.

Same thing goes for idle and transition. The low speed needle has mixture influance all the way to 3/4 throttle on most engines, so it is very important to get the low speed needle adjusted so that the off idle transition is crisp and clean. If the engine starts to speed up then fades real quick or dies, it is probably way too lean on the low speed side. If the engine stumbles and stutters and has a hard to clean out and speed up it is too rich. Always adjust the low speed needle in small increments, like 1/8 turn at a time or so.
Whenever changing types of plugs or fuels, both needles can be affected, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot.

Keep in mind, that all this is done without regard to temp, it is done by hearing and "feeling" what your car is doing.

I know in previous posts, I mention target temps, yes, that is for many engines, not all in the car world. Once a temp of 230 or so is reached (at the base of the glow plug) on most ABC type engines, the sleeve has achieved designed fit to the piston where friction begins to be minimized between the piston and sleeve. This design fit range of temp can extend to well over 400 degrees in many engines, of course it all depends on a bunch of variables.
No two engines are going to have the same target temps due to literally dozens of variables. One thing is for sure, if you are only getting 150 at the base of the glow plug after it is tuned for maximum performance, your engine has too much cooling capacity.

I have cut off cooling fins of several heads to make them run hotter (i.e.: closer to normal) because they were over cooled and had very fast wear rates. Remember; heat makes horsepower.


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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instruc... - 6/19/2006 8:08:31 AM   
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Hi, my name is James, im 14, and I've got an erge to look at getting a petrol car for my birthday (oct 31st), the car we just looked at which is a possibilty is the Kyosho FW05T RTR. just reading through your guys posts, its making me feel weird, im worried when i open the box and go to break it in im gona break it!, i have no idea what you do with the high low needles, and how they're used, how you keep it in good condition, im wondering if you guys could put ur steps into easier ones to understand for a beginner like me.

Thanks, James

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instruc... - 6/19/2006 2:50:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: James14

Hi, my name is James, im 14, and I've got an erge to look at getting a petrol car for my birthday (oct 31st), the car we just looked at which is a possibilty is the Kyosho FW05T RTR. just reading through your guys posts, its making me feel weird, im worried when i open the box and go to break it in im gona break it!, i have no idea what you do with the high low needles, and how they're used, how you keep it in good condition, im wondering if you guys could put ur steps into easier ones to understand for a beginner like me.

Thanks, James



Welcome to the form. First read all you can on this form and others to learn as much as you can. Then when you get your vehicle read the manual cover to cover before you try to do anything with it. We are hear do try and help the best we can and do not worry as it is not quite as hard as it might seem right now. Here are a few links to help.
http://www.rbmods.net/enginetempering.php
http://dads-toy.com/tuning.shtml
http://www.rcracersedmonton.com/rcracers/NitroEngine101.aspx
http://www.rchobbies.org/understanding_fuel.htm
http://www.rchobbies.org/cars_eng-tuning.htm
http://www.rchobbies.org/cars_troubleshooting.htm
http://www.nitrohouse.com/tech_tips.htm
http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/index.asp
Search the net, as there are plenty more good sites
Good luck!


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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instruc... - 6/22/2006 9:19:31 PM   
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I BOUGHT A "POWER RACING PRODUCTS" STADIUM TRUCK WITH A .18 ENGINE. THE CARB ONLY HAS 1 MIXTURE SCREW & IDLE SCREW. WHAT ARE THE "DEFAULT " SETTINGS FOR THESE?

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instr... - 6/22/2006 9:25:17 PM   
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Welcome to the form
Cannot help you with that one but if they have a web site they might be able to help or have it listed. Of do you have a manual? If not most manufactures web site you can down load it from their site.
All so when you use all caps it is like you are shouting and makes it harder to read.

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RE: Nitro Engine Care And Breaking In/Starting Instruc... - 6/24/2006 12:18:45 AM