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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hanga... - 6/13/2008 1:20:16 AM   
    jfeenin


     

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    From: Conesus, NY, USA
    Status: offline     		That is the MTW75 muffler that H9 uses and shows in the build manual, installed exactly as they show it installed. In reality it hasn't been an issue but the proximity just makes me uneasy. It does quiet the 50cc down a LOT though. Also without an actual full separating tunnel, it's very important to make sure things like the aileron servos can't swing up against it. In our first running tests (where he's holding it) I had it running a long time, no problems. Range checked way beyond where Spektrum said was minimum with the engine running with no glitches whatsoever. Then all of a sudden one aileron started glitching like mad when I was at close range and not in range check mode. On opening it up the servo extension had vibrated towards the front and melted the insulation off on the hot muffler. Lesson learned, had that happened in the air it would have been a catastrophic loss. So I replaced the extension and figured out a way to run the aileron extensions so that cannot pull enough slack to touch it. I also went over the other stuff to make sure it also couldn't touch it. No problems since.

    Matt is a heck of a pilot and will indeed fly this plane as well as the other large Extra I have. He would have flown it last Friday but he had school. He does tomorrow too but I think after that he'll be off for the summer. Where i work they have "summer hours" that starting last week allow us to work half days on Fridays by working extra earlier in the week. I call them half day Fly-Days. If weather permits he may get a shot Saturday though. It's threatening to storm us out here in NY tomorrow and Saturday though. In all honestly this plane and it's 3D throws is very capable of whipping around the sky but it's not at all a hard plane to fly. It just makes me want even bigger ones though

    I think the next expensive build is going to involve a turbine though...

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hanga... - 6/13/2008 2:58:18 AM   
    root



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    Status: offline     		I just printed out the pdf file of the manual for the DA-50 today and will be doing the same for the plane itself tomorrow so I didn't get a chance to see that muffler was used. I guess it must be okay if H9 used it.

    My DA-50 will be using the J'tec smaller sized Pitts style so it won't be riding in the fuse like yours. That's one less worry I'll have.

    I'm always off on Friday ...eerrrr mean Fly-Day, although tomorrow's Fly-Day the 13th........I'm sorta close to you bein' in Jersey and we're anticipating Saturday rain as well so, regardless of it being the 13th, I'll be gettin in some flying.

    As of now, whilst I'm waiting for the Extra's mid JUly's arrival, I'm pondering which batteries and servos to use. I wish money wasn't such an important issue or I'd be going with your set up.

    What happens if Matt wakes up t'morrow with a sudden belly ache, can't go to school and all of a sudden gets better before you leave for the flying field?

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/13/2008 1:26:02 PM   
    jfeenin


     

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    Status: offline     		Page 24 and 25 for the muffler installation. When you see the pictures of the muffler inside the plane you will understand what I mean even more. Where I fly noise is a concern so a cannister was pretty much mandatory. Going with a Pitts will save you some weight though.

    For the batteries and switches I personally went with Fromeco Li-Ions and MPI Miracle switches. However I bought mine last year. Now there is a Li-Ion shortage and A123's are more abundant and less dangerous, albeit slightly heavier, so that may be the way to go. However (especially if you have a good field charger) you could go with 1500mAh or so NiCD's and normal switches and you'd be fine. NiCD's can charge fast and they are cheap just check them between flights or at least every few flights. Same holds true for any battery though IMO.

    As for servos, I like the ones I used and the Airwild servo arms rock BTW but I didn't trust just screwing the links into them so I backed up each with the supplied lock nut as well. However after seeing all the servos in use... and if money wasn't an issue I'd use the 5955TG on the ailerons and elevator too, it is noticeably faster.

    some other tidbits/issues that aren't on my build page from the final build. DA recommends using some sort of spiral wrap to protect the ignition wire, which I did. I also got some u-trim rubber to go around the cut-outs in the bottom of the cowl. This looks nice and provides even more protection for the ignition wire. I cut my engine hole just about the same size they show in the manual, which works but I find it easier to put the cowl on and off if you rotate the spark plug cap so the ignition cable is in the front corner of the cutout when you take the cowl on and off. Rotate it back to the back once the cowl is on. The carb on the DA, as it came to me anyway, needed to be rotated 180 degrees to get the controls on the same side as the servo in the plane. As it came I'd have to run the controls through the fuel tank to hook it up. The manual doesn't mention this but when they show the pictures the carb linkages are on that side. Just undo the two screws on the back and flip the whole carb assembly (plastic spacer and all) over and put the screws back. When you take the screws out not how tight they are not, when you put them back in use the same tension, do not over tighten them. I know many people say it's not necessary but I've always done it even with smaller ARF's so better safe then sorry... I reinforced the inside of the motor box, where the motor box meets the firewall and where the firewall meets the sides with tri-stock. To each his own but honestly it's worth it to me and doesn't add a lot of actual weight either.

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/16/2008 2:58:33 PM   
    jfeenin


     

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    Status: offline     		Well put on the Mejzlik 23x8 this weekend. I think the motor actually sounded like it liked that prop a little better but I didn't see any huge performance difference. I had a few less than perfect landings unfortunately too but nothing catastrophic. Just needed to teak the gear back straight. I am still getting used to this sized plane and getting the landing speed right. Matt flew it for the first time this weekend too. He did excellent with it of course

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 6/18/2008 10:00:04 AM   
    rastus21


     

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    From: Alice Springs, AUSTRALIA
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    ORIGINAL: Showtime.50

    Hi Guys. I am in the process of Ordering my 27% Extra 260 and need a little advice.

    This is the list of items i will be fitting.

    1.DL50 or DA50
    2.8411 servo's on all flying services.
    3.537 on the throttle as well as choke.
    4.2700mah 6v pack for receiver
    5.1500 mah 4.8v for ignition.

    Thats pretty much it, now my question is. I was set on the DA50 but i have seen a lot of good posts regarding the DL50, not to mention its almost half the price.

    Has anyone here had extended time with the DL50 and how does it perform vs the DA50 ?

    Did the engine mounts etc need to be changed, i know there is a template for the DA50 but not sure if that can be used on the DL50 ?

    Can you use the DA50 pitts style muffler on the DL50 without any issues ?

    Thanks guys.

    Ive got a Dl 50 in mine with 30 or more flights with this combo, the motor is getting better and better. Perfect combo. I wouldnt bother with a DA save your cash and get a DL. My buddy has a DA and this eats it.... well mabbee not, pretty much the same , but $500au less. It eats it. That is a whole nother 260 airframe. You make the call bro.

    Matt

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/22/2008 10:01:33 PM   
    akashowtime


     

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    From: alanson, MI, USA
    Status: offline     		Today was the first flight of my H-260. Plane is awsome the way it handled, just needed Two clicks up trim and was good from there out. Saito 220 has tuns of power, hover at 1/2 speed.
    tonly real complant is the landing gear should just be throne out. On my second landing, a easy landing at that I hurd a pop. the landing delaminated. I would tell any one to by this plane but order the replacement aluma- gear . H-9 should be ashamed they keep selling this plane with such *&^&^&*((*&^%$$#$ landing gear.

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/22/2008 10:37:16 PM   
    cmoulder


     

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    From: Ossining, NY, USA
    Status: offline     		Ditto on the LG. Mine lasted a lot longer that most reported here, but eventually they also delaminated after about 120 flights or so. Still not acceptable.

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 6/24/2008 5:53:49 AM   
    Funcat


     

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    From: San Antonio, TX,
    Status: offline     		Here are some Picture of the Hanger 9 35% Extra 260 ARF
    Pilot: Dave Scott
    Location: Fond du Lac. WI
    Date 06/21-2008

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/24/2008 2:01:59 PM   
    jfeenin


     

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    From: Conesus, NY, USA
    Status: offline     		Yeah not exactly the plane this thread is about but definitely nice. I've actually considered it as a step up from the 27-28%'s I have now eventually. I hear ther 35 and 40%'s fly even better albeit they cost considerably more to build as well. What are your thoughts on the 35% H9?

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/25/2008 5:59:12 AM   
    wrpsr1911


     

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    From: MYRTLE BEACH, SC, USA
    Status: offline     		Just purchased this plane pre-built and I have never flown 3D and don't have any intentions. I have an OS 160 already, I am going to install. I tried reading 80 to 90% of this thread and couldn't find what is the recommended Prop size for the 160 ??I have Hitec 5645's all around. Any suggestions as to Balancing with the 160 ? Any help will be greatly appreciated!! I've only been flying a short while. Also, I am over 60 and my eyes are not getting any better, so I thought a little larger plane might help?? THANKS IN ADVANCE !!!-WOODIE

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/25/2008 1:32:12 PM   
    cmoulder


     

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    ORIGINAL: wrpsr1911

    Just purchased this plane pre-built and I have never flown 3D and don't have any intentions. I have an OS 160 already, I am going to install. I tried reading 80 to 90% of this thread and couldn't find what is the recommended Prop size for the 160 ??I have Hitec 5645's all around. Any suggestions as to Balancing with the 160 ? Any help will be greatly appreciated!! I've only been flying a short while. Also, I am over 60 and my eyes are not getting any better, so I thought a little larger plane might help?? THANKS IN ADVANCE !!!-WOODIE


    Woodie, the 1.60 is a marginal engine for this bird, but it will be adequate for sport flying if you keep the plane as light as possible. A 16x10 prop is fine, perhaps a 17x8 even better to slow it down some more for landing. In the right hands it could probably even handle IMAC basic and sportsman if plenty of speed is carried into the vertical segments.

    The nose is going to be pretty light, so plan on keeping components pretty far forward. If the rudder servo is in the tail, it will have to be moved to the servo bay under the canopy, with a pull-pull arrangement. If you end up needing a lot of weight forward, you might even put the receiver battery on the motor box. If you need more weight, use a bigger receiver battery. For those servos, you are definitely going to want to use a 6-volt system. Good thing is, with a very light glow set-up there is gobs of room in the fuse to put stuff where ever you want.

    You have to be somewhat circumspect when you read comments such as "lands like a trainer." I find that this is a very "honest" flying model and it does not have any bad habits when landing. However, like all aerobatic models it does exactly what YOU tell it to do. So if you are not totally confident in your left/right aileron inputs when the plane is flying directly at you, or if you tend to give a bit too much elevator input at the wrong time, or if you are not yet proficient a judging stall speed, this plane is not very forgiving. Bottom line is, let somebody with a lot of experience check your set-up, CG, etc... and do the maiden flight. Then fly it with your test pilot on a buddy box until you get some experience with how it handles.

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hang... - 6/25/2008 2:06:42 PM   
    wrpsr1911