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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 12:28:42 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Well we will know soon enough everything will be here this coming week! A few days to assemble it and to the sky its going I dont expect it to perform like it would with a DA 50 on it but I think it will suit my needs as I am not strictly a 3D pilot I like a plane that is good at both 3D and precision flying so I don't really care if it has a 2 to 1 thrust to weight ratio. It is nice when it works out that way! I will be curious to see how some of the other setups turn out. Hopefully my setup will be good! We will see in a few days !

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 1:28:07 AM   
    BR289



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    Status: offline     		Greetings,
    I will putting an FPE 2.4 in mine....same weight as a DA 50, not as much power though, but I am not a big 3-D type of guy so it should be fine......Good luck to all that get one.
    Blair

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 1:29:30 AM   
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    Status: offline     		It's plain and simple..a plane this size at a 32 ounce wingloading compared to one of the same size and a 24 ounce wing loading will have to fly faster to maintain the same amount of lift as the lighter one. This situation works the same for knife edge, the way the airplane harriers, waterfalls, flatspins, lands, takes off,...everything is affected by wingloading.

    Extra addict, what prop and RPM's do you ecpect from that 1.60???

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 6:10:35 AM   
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    Status: offline     		i just ran an old used OS 160 on the test stand and was swinging a 18x6w apc prop at 9400 it was probably a little lean so i would expect 9200 rpm

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 11:40:50 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I have heard of this motor swinging a 20X6 (wood) 8500 rpms. It might not work out then agian it might be great it will be fun finding out!

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 2:18:51 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Guys I agree that the wing loading is a huge part of the overall performance of the aircraft. The fact is I know of two Extreme flight Yaks that weigh a legit 17 lbs. Both are built stock with the bare min of equipment used. If you compare the two with those weights the 260 looks a lot better. Either way I have not seen any weights posted besides what Horizon is saying. If it is a legit 15.5 with a DA 50 it will fly well. It won't fly well in Denver. Not many airplanes do. Wing loading is Everything out there. Jason

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 7:00:30 PM   
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    Status: offline     		When is H9 going to start going with color schemes us old farts can see on a cloudy day. Just sold a great flying H9 330L, because of the white and blue, that disappears in the clouds at the end of the pattern. If it doesn't have a bunch of red and yellow or some other highly visable color most of us shy away from it. Looks like a great plane, good size, but nearly invisable to us senior citizens.

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 7:07:39 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: drumbum

    we dont . people are just number crunching. ill wait for the real test>>> FLYING IT


    ...and that is the truth 100%. Going on wingloading and weight alone, why are there so many Cardens flying? Because it isn't the only part of flight characteristics.

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 7:37:07 PM   
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    Status: offline     		No one even mentioned a Moki 2.1 for power. On another thread, we figured the difference between the DA and Moki in price would net you about 150plus free flights on glow fuel, with no weight penalty, actually, by the time you add the weight of the batteries, ignition, etc. the Moki on a Bisson or a pipe (even more power) becomes ever more enticing.

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 9:50:14 PM   
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    quote:

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    When is H9 going to start going with color schemes us old farts can see on a cloudy day. Just sold a great flying H9 330L, because of the white and blue, that disappears in the clouds at the end of the pattern. If it doesn't have a bunch of red and yellow or some other highly visable color most of us shy away from it. Looks like a great plane, good size, but nearly invisable to us senior citizens.


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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/16/2005 11:33:11 PM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Jason 3-Danhakl

    Guys I agree that the wing loading is a huge part of the overall performance of the aircraft. The fact is I know of two Extreme flight Yaks that weigh a legit 17 lbs. Both are built stock with the bare min of equipment used. If you compare the two with those weights the 260 looks a lot better. Either way I have not seen any weights posted besides what Horizon is saying. If it is a legit 15.5 with a DA 50 it will fly well. It won't fly well in Denver. Not many airplanes do. Wing loading is Everything out there. Jason

    That's IMPOSSIBLE, especially if you really mean bare minimum of equipment. To me, bare minimum means DA muffler, LiIons, no pilot, carbon spinner, wood prop, and even no wheel pants. This is the situation of mine and it is 15 pounds, even. 17 pounds would probably be a tuned pipe, pilot, aluminum spinner, cf prop, wheel pants, and nimh or nicad batteries and maybe even a choke servo or heavier engine.
    May I also add that I am in Colorado Springs, a thousand + feet higher than that Denver area you mentioned, so you can certainly understand my concern for weight.

    < Message edited by bodyworks -- 5/18/2005 10:07:22 PM >

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/17/2005 3:16:40 AM   
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    Status: offline     		all you guys shouldnt freak out so much. the plane isnt even in anyones hands as we know of yet.. who knows it might come out 12lb with a Ys140DZ on it and fly like a dream. it could come in at 15 with a DA 50 and fly like mike said it would... his designs have a pretty good track record so far.. of corse some people might not like it. im sure it wont please everyone. i dont know a plane that does..

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    RE: Extra 260 27% Hangar 9er - 5/17/2005 5:13:51 AM   
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    Status: offline     		I checked one out at the LHS today...
    Looks real good, and built nice and light. I don't think it would come in at quite 15 lbs. though.
    My guess would be more like 12-13 with a light engine and equipment. I was also thinking maybe an O.S. 1.60 or Saito 1.80 (because that's what I already have )

    I had a WM 27% PW Extra (with a 3W-50 ) for awhile, and this new 260 feels substantially lighter, structure wise...

    How about a ZDZ 40? I got a friend who's got an "extra" one lying around...hmmm

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