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    RE: RE: I maidened my Patty with a DA-50! - 2/28/2004 12:39:32 PM   
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    RE: RE: I maidened my Patty with a DA-50! - 2/28/2004 1:39:37 PM   
    Forgues Research



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    ORIGINAL: rcguy1

    BasinBum is a regulator really necessary when you use a 6 volt battery pack? I'm using Hitec digital servos with Futaba radio equipment and no regulator on the 6 volt battery. Have had this setup over a year now with no problems. Also other fliers at our field have the same setup, 6 volt battery no regulator with 35% planes and no problems.


    If I may, you don't need a regulator with any 5 cell packs of NiCds or NmHds

    Some years ago, JR servos would not tolerate 6 volts, but as for Hitec and Multiplex, and most other brands will have no problems with 6 volts.

    Right after a complete charge, you will see close to 7 volts, but normally when take everything out of the charger and drive to the field, the batteries have stabalized to a lower voltage.

    Also if you have your transmitter very close to the airplane at the start of the day, you might see some jitters, because the RF is getting swamped , pull away a bit.

    Hope this helps.

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    RE: RE: I maidened my Patty with a DA-50! - 2/28/2004 2:05:52 PM   
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    ORIGINAL: rcguy1

    BasinBum is a regulator really necessary when you use a 6 volt battery pack? I'm using Hitec digital servos with Futaba radio equipment and no regulator on the 6 volt battery. Have had this setup over a year now with no problems. Also other fliers at our field have the same setup, 6 volt battery no regulator with 35% planes and no problems.


    Asked and answered. They are not necassary but they are sure common. As Roger points out the voltage drops off quickly but if you tend to top off at the field it'll keep the servos from twitching. I have also read that the servos will perform more consistantly through the flight but I don't know if it's a noticable differance.

    As for 2 fasts parallel question it wouldn't change the voltage so that set-up does not have to have one either.

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    RE: RE: I maidened my Patty with a DA-50! - 2/28/2004 2:08:33 PM   
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    http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/parallel_batteries.htm

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    ORIGINAL: TOFAST4U2C

    How about when you use 2 6volt packs in parallel??


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    RE: RE: I maidened my Patty with a DA-50! - 2/28/2004 4:33:33 PM   
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    These guys are correct. Especially with the HiTec servos which are supposed to be capable of taking up to 10 volts (I don't believe it as a constant 10v, although I maybe wrong). The only servos on the market that don't tolerate 6v too much is Futaba. They are marked as such although their digitals are more tolerant of 6v when it is regulated. As these guys pointed out with a regulator you get a more consistent voltage through out your flights. The regulators used today are better suited to battery packs of Li-Ion & Li-Po technology where the voltage out is any where from 7.2 to 8.4 volts and needs to be regulated. As pointed out a 5-cell 6 volt NiCad or NiMi doesn't need regulation with todays' servos.


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    Crazy Pilots? - 4/6/2004 4:39:12 PM   
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    Where did you get your pilot and do you have contact information?

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    RE: Crazy Pilots? - 4/6/2004 4:48:18 PM   
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    Status: offline     		Regarding the 6 volt pack and regulator issue...aren't the electronics, such as the receiver, built on a 6 volt platform? Therefore, isn't there a potential damage to the electronics rather than the servos (since the packs will hold more than 6 volts for some time)?

    < Message edited by P-51B -- 4/6/2004 11:48:58 AM >

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    RE: Crazy Pilots? - 4/6/2004 7:10:42 PM   
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    RE: Crazy Pilots? - 4/6/2004 7:20:25 PM   
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    Status: offline     		By far the best way is to use a 5 volt battery for the receiver and a 6 volt battery for the servos. This way the receiver runs clean without any issue.


    And here is one way of doing it

    Roger

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    Patty With A Glow - 4/11/2004 9:02:30 PM   
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    do you have any problems with a glow pulling the Patty!!

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    RE: Patty With A Glow - 4/11/2004 9:14:05 PM   
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    Status: offline     		My first Patty had the Moki 2.10 for well over 200 flights until I went gas. Works okay but nothing spectacular. She would do the basic and sportsman IMAC maneuvers but kinda had trouble with the advanced and beyond. Not enough vertical. But it was a great little engine to get the feel of the Wagstaff. Once I went with the BME and the DA, four vertical snaps, not a problem. If you're even considering the glow motors, remember the $$$$ you need for fuel. Even with the rise of gas prices, $2.00 a gallon is pretty cheap.

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    RE: I maidened my Patty with a DA-50! - 4/11/2004 9:20:42 PM   
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    RE: I maidened my Patty with a DA-50! - 4/11/2004 9:39:02 PM   
    John Murdoch