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    Reply - 10/2/2002 3:38:03 AM   
    Blueskies21



    Posts: 451
    Joined: 2/5/2002
    From: va beach, VA, USA
    Status: offline     		I just bought one 3 days ago,its beautiful,and bigggg.the fuse looks to me bigger than typical 1/4 scale size,I esp. love how scale they got the checkered paterns and graphics ...the cowl has the best color match I have ever seen on an arf to date,and a nice 4'' alum. spinner included too!! and for only 399.00!!!!its xmas in oct for me i cant wait to show this baby off at the field ,Mine will be getting a Moki 2.10,and hitec digitals all the way around ,GP once again did ,i didnt think they could top the UCAN DO,which i also have been flying with a saito 100,what a sweet bird too!!I will post 1st flight outcome on my patty 300 soon as mine will be ready in approx. 2 weeks

    Steve

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 3:39:44 AM   
    qspilot


     

    Posts: 137
    Joined: 9/7/2002
    From: Tampa, FL
    Status: offline     		I wish that I had a ZDZ 50 or BME 50 for this. I guess the BME 44 will have to do. With 25 LBS of thrust on a 16 pound (hopefully) model it should perform good. I am not sure how the extra wing loading would effect it. A lightweight gasser (BME,ZDZ,3W) is lighter and more powerful than the Fuji 50 they show in the manual. With it's short nose moment I think that a 160FX may require lead in the nose. Hopefully a small lightweight gasser like ours will balance and fly okay. Did everyone gets there wing tubes in? Boy I was praying mine would go in okay. Everyone please post your engine and adjustments required for recommended CG when you get to that step.

    Chris

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    GP's Response To Wing Tube Fit - 10/2/2002 5:21:35 AM   
    vtsmx-DELETE


     

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    Status: offline     		I heard back from Great Planes today. The tech recommended sandy the tubes in the fuse and wing panels by using a dowel/pipe with foam wrapped around it and then sandpaper over the foam, using a twisting/turning action. He suggested something along the line of 400 grit. The reason for the foam, along with the twisting action, is to help alleviate the potential of the inner tubes being sanded to an elliptical shape. He also said the fuse and wing tubes function merely as guides, as opposed to providing any real structural support, so removing a small amount will not weaken the general assembly. The main thing he stressed was to remove material slowly . That's it for now . . . .

    vtsmx

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 6:00:27 AM   
    amcross



    Posts: 2644
    Joined: 1/8/2002
    From: Tuscola, IL, USA
    Status: offline     		Hi all! Just talked iwth Michael about this...to provide additional details...

    1) yes humidity makes a difference. Cold dry days your wings will fit 'looser' in the phenolic guide tubes than on wet and hot days. this is perfectly normal on wings like this.

    2) phenolic fits sloppy? use some vaseline on the aluminum and then slide it in and out of the wing. the vaseline swells the phenolic to a tight fit like wearing a new pair of boots in water and letting htem dry on your feet.

    3) phenolic too tight, probably from humidity? try a hair dryer to dry out the tube. over time the tube will break in and be easier and easier to use.

    4) phenolic way too tight, probably from some glue on the inner part of the tube?
    Take a 3/8" dowel 24" long. cut a slot 3" long in the center of one end. Slide a piece of 400 or 500 grit sand paper 6" long into the slot. Wrap receiver foam around the stick and then the paper around the foam. Slide into the wing.

    Chuck the dowel into your drill and run slowly inside the wing just enough to touch all of the areas of the phenolic. try your wing again. Repeat as needed for a perfect fit.


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    Mrs AnnMarie Cross
    Owner, Cross Winds Stables and Equine Rescue, Inc.
    an Illinois 501c3 nonprofit charity corporation

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 8:59:08 AM   
    PlaneKrazee



    Posts: 3541
    Joined: 5/15/2002
    From: Westerly, RI, USA
    Status: offline     		Ann Marie Cross,

    Thank you for the reply.

    The tubes in the kit I received are not phenolic, no resin in them. They are soft card board.

    Brian

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    Mine is here!!! - 10/2/2002 9:39:39 AM   
    hattend



    Posts: 2054
    Joined: 11/29/2001
    From: Redding, CA, USA
    Status: offline     		I had a some slight balsa crushing just forward of the canopy, but nothing I can't fix with some CA and a heat gun. The rest is flawless. GP, you guys rock! I thought the Shoestring was nice, this one is excellent!!

    I had a slight problem with the wing tube going into the right wing but some twisting while pushing fixed that. The left wing went on fine. I haven't tried inserting into the fuse tube yet.

    The wing tubes don't look like phenolic to me. It looks like model rocket tubes. Oh well, I wouldn't know phenolic from a hole in the ground.

    I have the Fox 3.2 on order. It is smoke ready. Should be fun.

    Don

    To Dick Pettit: I would like a set of the model graphics, too. Any idea when they will be ready for the general public to purchase?

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 5:02:27 PM   
    amcross



    Posts: 2644
    Joined: 1/8/2002
    From: Tuscola, IL, USA
    Status: offline     		Sorry, guys, phenolic is a habit for me....yes they are cardboard. kinda like saying motor when ya mean engine, to my brain phenolic is a name for the outer support tube as much as a material. sorry....just being sloppy.


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    Mrs AnnMarie Cross
    Owner, Cross Winds Stables and Equine Rescue, Inc.
    an Illinois 501c3 nonprofit charity corporation

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 6:03:15 PM   
    JBrannon



    Posts: 537
    Joined: 3/27/2002
    From: Chantilly, VA, USA
    Status: offline     		Anyone flown one of these with a gas engine yet?

    If so, What does it wiegh? How did it balance?

    Does it tip stall or mush? Will it harrier?

    Does it need any elevator or aileron mixing for knife edges?

    Thanks,

    Joe Brannon

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 6:37:59 PM   
    dick Hanson



    Posts: 10074
    Joined: 12/12/2001
    From: slc, UT, USA
    Status: offline     		The 1150 squares sounds great --anybody figured out how to putweight in the 13-14 lb range - using a gasser -?
    Too optomistic?

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 7:28:31 PM   
    Nessa


     

    Posts: 6
    Joined: 9/19/2002
    From: NorCal
    Status: offline     		zdz 50! Lite+Gobbs-o-power=Oh my!

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 7:35:02 PM   
    X300Pilot


     

    Posts: 126
    Joined: 4/29/2002
    From: Sammamish, WA, USA
    Status: offline     		I started this thread a week ago, and WOW!!! you guys have really supplied some useful info on this aircraft!!

    The wing tubes seemed to fit fine on mine, the right ring panel was a little tighter than the rest, but it's nothing that cant be fixed. I have a Brison 3.2 on the way for this bird, should be able to fly the covering off of it !!!!!

    Thanks you guys for all the input, and thanks RCU!!!!!!!!!!

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 7:40:48 PM   
    amcross



    Posts: 2644
    Joined: 1/8/2002
    From: Tuscola, IL, USA
    Status: offline     		The plane flies fabulously with a gasoline engine, harriers beautifully, and has absolutely no tipstalling characteristic when balanced properly INCLUDING LATERALLY (use the ruler off hte floor method, please, not the LAR -- looks about right -- method!)

    Enjoy her!


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    Sincerely,
    Mrs AnnMarie Cross
    Owner, Cross Winds Stables and Equine Rescue, Inc.
    an Illinois 501c3 nonprofit charity corporation

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 7:44:20 PM   
    X300Pilot


     

    Posts: 126
    Joined: 4/29/2002
    From: Sammamish, WA, USA
    Status: offline     		Thank you very much AnnMarie for your input, it always helps to have sort of an "inside " scoop on an issue like this.

    Thanks again

    x300pilot

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    Wagstaff Extra 300 - 10/2/2002 7:48:50 PM