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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/14/2005 12:44:23 AM   
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Hey guys,
One quick question. is it a necessity to get the retracts for fitting before sheeting the wing? Or can i do a lot of the fitting later?

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/14/2005 1:00:31 AM   
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Hello there,

Got your message.. I will respond to it a bit later.. But I will say this.. When I read the directions I usually read them all.. and look at every picture in fine detail. This will save you loads of guess work later on. A few things I can point out are:

Fin: You cut the sheeting to short on one side.. when you put it in the fuse over the stab you will see what I mean. Also, the fin will not extend down to the bottom of the fuse, you have to sand off some area under the stab to get it to sit at a 90 degree angle so that your rudder is straight. As far as the wings go.. Consider every single little thing you are going to do first.. make sure you have the servos for the flaps ( 2 ) and 1 for the aileron. Make sure you go out and buy the steel threaded clevis's. Do not use the stupid nylon ones as they are a nightmare to screw on once the rods are in the plane.. and gosh forbid you have to take them out once you solder. Make sure you get your retracts working perfectly before you sheet, you will have to put the fasteners on the air lines so that the air does not leak, and you have to play around with the air retract horn gage to get the retract to work perfectly.

I will check on the gluing in the book, but I think it does tell you.. just make sure you visit the back of the book for more information and make sure you jump ahead just to see what might be missing where you are in the book.. seriously

Just know ahead of time that the wheels will go down quickly and at different speeds, but coming up they tend to be really smooth if you adjust them JUST RIGHT... Once you get all your wiring done and test the pressure overnight in your air-can, and then get your y connector for the flaps and pre install the flap servos ( screw them in ) then sheet AROUND the servo flap covers. Sheeting afterward would be a nightmare no matter what you do....

I could go on and on about the kit and the little things that really need to be addressed in the book, but then again it is for a intermediate plane builder which I now consider myself, but not before this project.. not at all.. This is a tough little craft, but if you take your time ( a few months for me, a little here and there ) it will be super when it is done..

I will start to post some photos of my build in the next few days. I have to get my camera back from a friend first.. This way we can share ideas and concerns during the build.

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/14/2005 1:04:03 AM   
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I didn't build with the retracts but it seems it would be hard to get the tubing thru the wing after sheeting. I guess you could lay some string or something similiar to help you pull the tubes. Or go ahead and put the tubing in (if you have some) then sheet the wing & get your retracts later. Better yet you could just put the wing aside and start the fuse construction. Send pictures and keep the thread going.
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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/14/2005 1:22:53 AM   
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I did put the wing aside, check out the pics. it shows my fuse. :P Anyways, i decided to just drop down and by the retracts now. They should be in the mail tomorrow. Those little things are pretty expensive! Anyways, I plan on working a little bit on the wing tonight, so I will try to post pics if i do make any noticeable progress. See ya.

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/16/2005 8:36:28 PM   
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Hello Hello,

I was wondering how your progress is going? I am just finishing up epoxying my area of the fuse behind the firewall.. I do one side a day.. 5 sides to do, and 3 done.. I am working on the 4th now.. What I have been doing while epoxing is using clay to stop the epoxy from running out of the holes on the fuse.. I make a little 1/8 inch wall and then put a fillet of epoxy on at about 1/8 or less.. It is really awesome..

When you get some time, please post the parts you are going to be using for your engine area, mount, motor, muffler, header ( if any ) etc.. I would like to see if I want to change my mind.. are you inverting or side mount?

Have a great one.. Will post pictures I hope tomorrow..




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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 12:17:43 AM   
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Okay, I am on the wing and very confused. THe wingbolt assembly on the front of the wing is fit between the two w2 ribs. I can do that just fine, but no where does it say to actually glue it to the wing? ANyone know if they forgot to add that to the instructions?

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 3:21:43 AM   
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Hello there,

I think you are on epage 20 and 21 of the book.. After you glue the wing bolt plate together you are suppose to draw your center lines on the the W2's and then glue the wing bolt plate a 1/16 of an inch lower then the center line to achieve the proper angle. DO NOT shape the CLE until you are ready to bolt the wings on...

If this is not the step you are on ( 23, 24, 25 ) please let me know where you are in the book and I will check it..

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 4:05:00 AM   
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You nailed the step, its just it says locate the part, not glue. hmmm, I would assume its suppose to be glued though.

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 4:27:11 AM   
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Be careful to get that cle in the right way, I put mine in angled wrong. It worked out but required a lot of sanding and shaping. Out side of that problem my wing built very well.
Brad

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 5:21:57 PM   
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So you guys are telling me to glue the wingbolt assembly to the wing right? Sorry, I just dont want to get this wrong. I will double check the angle of cle which is my next step. Thanks for the tip.

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 5:47:08 PM   
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Hello Zope,

I was wondering if you could do me a favour and post a picture or two of where you are at. A picture of the wings joined top view and also the part you are talking about. This way not only can I tell if everything else was done prior to gluing in the CLE, but what to if anything change or fix. If you are unable to do this, then I can only say go for it.. glue it up.



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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 9:16:49 PM   
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I will try to post a picture. I have followed the instructions to the t, but no where does it mention gluing in the w1 and wingbolt plate to the wing. I will post pics of my wing and the instructions. I have read the step like 20 times and cant seem to find the word glue. :P

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RE: Top Flite 1/7 P-51 Build - 10/17/2005 9:39:05 PM   
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Hey Zope,

Here is the manual...

http://www.top-flite.com/manuals/topa0110-manual.pdf

send me a PM with your IM at MSN ( I only have an account there ) and we can talk about it over IM. If you want. Otherwise we can try and go over the manual on here.




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