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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / Build - 3/9/2006 5:37:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Flutter on the SE5A ?... Dang, how fast does this thing fly

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/9/2006 8:10:27 PM   
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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/9/2006 8:17:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Havent had that problem with this one yet, I keep my control lines pretty snug. I did however have a flutter problem with my FunAero Albatros DIII, the pull pull on the rudder could not tighten up enough to prevent flutter on high speed high altitude power dives

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 3:12:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know the arm must have had a flaw from new, anyhow it certainly shortened the second flight with the SE5a.

However I rebuilt it and have had no further problems despite a lot of flights with high strain maneuvers.

Yes I do have Realflght with me but is not the same, park flyers are OK but first you need a park, and you have to get their by bus ( Have you ever heard that song by Weird Al !QUOT!another one rides the bus!QUOT!, the ones here are more crowded!)


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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 3:27:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dont get me started!! Wierd Al is my hero I remember the first TV appearance he had singing that song. The host of the show looked like he was in pain. Wierd Al and his back up (A guy thumping on an empty suitcase) really put thier all into it.

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 3:47:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK you guys this has been bothering me for awhile and I have to ask it.. In the real version of these thing how did the pilot fire that top machine gun ?.. As I understand it the gun was designed to be pulled down also so it would shoot straight up ?... Thing is it looks like he would have to almost stand up to operate the thing... This while flying the plane ?... I must be missing something here

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 4:55:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was a cable much like an old fashion carburator choke. Mash on that and the gun fires.

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 6:15:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, makes sense... Could they reposition the gun from there seats ?..
Seems like an akward place to put one... Could have just mounted the
second one on the nose also... Must be because they could make the top
one shoot straight up when under the enemy plane ?..

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 6:29:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Lewis gun was not compatible with the mechanical interupter gear. So it had to be fired from above the prop so as not to damage it. The Vickers and Spandua were both compatible with the mechanical (and later hydralic) interupter gear system. That is why you will see a Vickers on the fuse but a lewis on the wing. Several other planes used them on the wing also. The Sopwith Pup was one. It was often mounted at an angle through the wing to shoot up into the bottom of an oposing aircraft.

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 8:24:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		So they didn't actually pull the gun down on the Ibeam track it is mounted on and use it to shoot straight up ??... The track looks like it is designed to do that ?..
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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 9:24:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe they could shoot up with it, not sure if this was done, though. The reason it was on the track was so the pilot could pull it down and change out the empty and replace with a full magazine, then push it back up to the firing position. The guns were sighted in on the ground. There would be a convergance point around 300 yards out, where the two gun's tragectory's would meet. The choke cable mentioned came down to a trigger mounted between the triangular handle on the control stick. This trigger was right along side the trigger for the Vickers. The pilot had the option of firing the Lewis or the Vickers, or both at the same time. The Albatross D-II had twin Spandaus. It wasn't until much later, with the Camel, that the allies had a machine with twin Vickers, firing through the propeller arch.


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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 9:40:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, makes sense... T thought I read somewhere that they designed some of the guns so they could fly under the enemy where they were out of gunsight then shoot up through the bottom of the enemy plane... Not sure who did that or what planes they did it on..
Sounds like the pilot was busy if had to load that gun all the time too...

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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/10/2006 11:50:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, the pilot would get very busy at times. I think the magazine for the Lewis held less then 100 rounds. I also think with the one on the gun at take off, they may have carried 3 more magazines. I read somewhere also, what your talking about of moving the guns so the pilot could shoot upwards. The Lewis over wing set-up would sound like a likely candidate. These questions would likely be answered very well by folks over on the Aerodrome Forum, if you could keep someone from flaming your fanny first!


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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/11/2006 12:14:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks... More good info...
Yea, little risky over at that place


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RE: Dynaflite SE5A / S.E. 5A / SE-5 / SE-5A / B... - 3/11/2006 6:51:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		The wing on this model is to high if it were a real plane the pilot could not have reached the Lewis. As it was on the real planes the Lewis was fitted with an extended pistol grip for pilots of shorter stature. The Gun was pulled down for reloading and magasines of initialy thirty then sixty and finaly ninety rounds were developed.

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