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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 7/23/2011 10:45 AM   
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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 7/24/2011 2:39 AM   
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About the only thing I have left is the fuel system and to pick up a new switch. Discovered that the one I bought has an intermittent short in it. Glad I found it before I flew it!

Still have all of the cosmetic details to do. Nothing fancy, just going to dress it up as per the picture on the box except I put a red/white striped rudder on it. Should fly it next weekend if the wind stays down.






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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 7/24/2011 5:12 AM   
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I also fly a hangar 9 twist 40 there also, but I don't have the room to land my GoldWing 30cc MX 2 there.
I'm really thinking long an hard on this plane if it indeeds fits the bill.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/6/2011 3:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I bought a pt-17 from a rcu member new in box, the covering on the wings is so much better than the one I sent back to tower, no wrinkles anywhere. I have decided to go yellow and blue, army style. I have recovered the tail feathers, now the problem painting the cowl to match the blue, also will the paint react to the already painted cowl?? Any ideas??

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/6/2011 11:01 AM   
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Status: online 		I used oracover to recover mine and then just bought the RC colours paint to match, you should have similar in the US monokote or whatever plus spray tins to match the covering. I had no problems with painting over existing paint, just rubbed everything down with a scotchbrite pad.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/6/2011 7:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I went with the NAVY paint scheme. I used Cub Yellow Monokote and Cub Yellow Lustrekote. Unfortunately Lustrekote has stopped making most of the old colors. They are now limited to Black, white, Missle Red, Navy blue, Yellow, Cub Yellow, and silver. I think thats all of them. If you attempt to do the Army Air Corps paint scheme you might have difficulty finding a light blue in rattle can paint. I'm a big fan of Rustoleum paints, but not all are fuel proof. You will need to test the colors you intend to use. And another trick I figured out lately was to purchase ultra fine sray nozzles for rattle can paint, available on ebay. They are generally good for one use only, but a bag of them cost just a buck or two. They atomize the paint so well you get a fantastic finish that flows out perfectly and looks like its from a gun. I doubt those nozzles will work with Lustrekote since the solids tend to be rather large in that brand. But for Rustoleum they make magic happen.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/7/2011 1:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks guys I already had some midnight blue in ultracote for the fuse, looks good then the contrast of yellow wings and now the tail feathers in yellow, wont have any trouble seeing it...........

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/8/2011 6:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is there a better way to find the CG on this thing? I'm tail heavy. Adding 6oz to the nose and balancing at 5.5" back on the top wing, doesn't seem to move it much. Matter of fact it looks like it is balanced perfectly at 5.5" back using the procedure in the book, but it sure doesn't fly like it with all usable down elevator trim on the maiden flight. Adding weight while it is being held a 5.5" back of the top wing, shows no noticable change in the CG. It stays put.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/8/2011 7:35 PM   
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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/8/2011 7:58 PM   
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What engine are you using

DLE 20

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/9/2011 11:39 AM   
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Status: online 		I have a ST2500 in mine which is 3lb 2ozs incl silencer. The RX battery is a 4.8v 3300 sub c which I have in the fuselage just behind the former at the rear of the tank, it has no further weight and is perfectly balanced.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/9/2011 3:18 PM   
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I have a ST2500 in mine which is 3lb 2ozs incl silencer. The RX battery is a 4.8v 3300 sub c which I have in the fuselage just behind the former at the rear of the tank, it has no further weight and is perfectly balanced.

My battery is on the firewall and I'm running a DLE-20. The combined weight of your engine and battery is twice what mine is. I may need to add a LOT more weight. I'm going to get one of those weighted brass spinners and put on the nose to see what that does.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/9/2011 4:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Spinner, I mounted both of my batteries on top of the engine using a piece of plywood mounted on top of the engine mount. It came out perfect. I'm using a 5cell sub c for the radio and a 4 cell AA. I think it takes about 2oz up front to offset 1oz in the tail.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 8/22/2011 3:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		maiden the stearman today flew good, my old saito 120 is not up to par need to upgrade for a little more power for take offs, once in air it flew good, a little squirrely on take offs, but that will work out with a little practice, looks good in the air

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/13/2011 9:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone flown this plane with a OS91FX two-stroke? That's what I have in mine and I haven't flown it yet so now I'm having second thoughts as to whether this engine has enought oomph. I'm considering a DLE20 but that would really pinch the budget so I need to know ASAP because I have a Tower deal that would knock off $40 on the DLE20 but I don't want to buy if it is not necessary.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/14/2011 10:38 PM   
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Anyone flown this plane with a OS91FX two-stroke? That's what I have in mine and I haven't flown it yet so now I'm having second thoughts as to whether this engine has enought oomph. I'm considering a DLE20 but that would really pinch the budget so I need to know ASAP because I have a Tower deal that would knock off $40 on the DLE20 but I don't want to buy if it is not necessary.

Thanks,
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I think the 91 would fly it but it would be pretty sluggish as it is a pretty heavy plane for that size engine. You would probably have to add two pounds of lead to the nose (not an exaggeration - at all) to get it to balance with the .91. I love mine with the DLE 20 as the power is perfect with a Vess 17.x6 and I had to add about 8oz to the nose to get it to balance decent.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/14/2011 11:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks to all the pilots who have taken the time to post to this forum.  I have learned an enormous amount of info.  I have a question about the decals included in the ARF kit.  I have seen where some have made other decals, but that is not an option.  I notice that a lot of the photos included in the forum don't have the "rivets" decal strips.

My questions are,

do these stick well enough without a decal glue or anything?  

did you separate the numbers to avoid too much "clear" decal, or did you make it all one decal?  

how do you know where to put the "rivets" strips?  I notice that a lot of the photos included in the forum don't have the "rivets" decal strips.  

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/14/2011 11:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks SpinnerRow...........just ordered the DLE20...........will see how much trouble it is to retrofit it to the plane. Also ordered another cowl and dummy radial because I know that the one I have would not fite the DLE.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/14/2011 11:51 PM   
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Thanks to all the pilots who have taken the time to post to this forum.  I have learned an enormous amount of info.  I have a question about the decals included in the ARF kit.  I have seen where some have made other decals, but that is not an option.  I notice that a lot of the photos included in the forum don't have the ''rivets'' decal strips.

My questions are,

do these stick well enough without a decal glue or anything?  

did you separate the numbers to avoid too much ''clear'' decal, or did you make it all one decal?  

how do you know where to put the ''rivets'' strips?  I notice that a lot of the photos included in the forum don't have the ''rivets'' decal strips.  

Thanks, 

The stickers stick OK.........I used the boxtop for reference for rivet placement. It's close enough for Rock 'n' Roll...........

I did not seperate the numbers and there are minimal air pockets.......not the best sticky decals I've ever worked with. For this arf I definitely not go to the expense to get different decals.............I paid $35 for vinyl decals for a kit I'm building but for an arf I just don't think it's worth it.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/17/2011 9:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I cut out as much of the clear backing as possible while keeping the numbers together. Clean the surface of your plane real good with some alcohol to remove any oil and finger prints. sparay the surface down with a little glass cleaner beforehand and then position the decal where you want and squegee out the excess water from th center out with a scrap piece of balsa and then go over with apaper towal to make sure they are down and then let dry. I left off the the rivets, a little too hokey for me. Sady I lost mine in a big mid air last week with a nice Se5, both were a total loss I will get another one though, as I loved this plane, I had a smoke system it it and it was so cool The DLE 20 in this plane rocks !


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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/18/2011 12:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Thanks, Rapture.  Great instructions for these decals!  Thanks a lot.  I tried using a decal set on the first couple, but not working.  

 

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 10/18/2011 3:06 AM   
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Decal set is for water slide decals, not the self stick type. The decal set softens the image enough on the water slide to allow it to conform around rivits and into panel lines just enough. With the Windex or Glass Cleaner sprayed on the surface, it allows the self stick to move into position until squeegeed and blotted up with the paper towel. It does not soften the decal like the decal set does on a waterslide decal.

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 11/6/2011 3:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am nearing the end of the decal stage of my planewhich has been my least favorite part of building this plane.  Just as I'm finishing I realized something:  Great Planes only gives you two of the U.S. Star emblem for the wings.  Every plane I've ever seen has had two stars on the top and two stars on the bottom wing.  I phoned Great Planes thinking that it had to be a mistake and they say thats all we get, two. Decals are mysteriously out of stock all around the world according to my Google searchuntil late November.

Am I not understanding something about the scale look about these decals?  Does anyone know if the period this plane represents really only used two for the top wing?  And, if they do use four, are the equal size, that I can just use two more of the same decal sheet?

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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 11/6/2011 3:49 AM   
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Of the full size PT-17s I have seen with military colour schemes, either all yellow (NAVY), yellow wings/blue body (USAAC) or yellow wings/light gray body (NAVY), each had 4 stars with the upper stars being larger than the bottom stars. The upper nearly went from leading to tailing edge and the lower went from leading edge to just in front of the aileron bay. All but one had the red ball in the center. The one military exception was a PT-17 painted in the ReCall colours, Dark Blue and White diagonal stripes all over and it had the Stars and Bar insignia without the red bar, one on the upper left wing, one on the lower right wing and one on each side of the fuselage (not sure if that was a restoration error or not, the current owner bought it that way).


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RE: Great Planes PT- 17 Stearman ARF - 11/6/2011 9:31 PM   
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I am nearing the end of the decal stage of my planewhich has been my least favorite part of building this plane.  Just as I'm finishing I realized something:  Great Planes only gives you two of the U.S. Star emblem for the wings.  Every plane I've ever seen has had two stars on the top and two stars on the bottom wing.  I phoned Great Planes thinking that it had to be a mistake and they say thats all we get, two. Decals are mysteriously out of stock all around the world according to my Google searchuntil late November.

Am I not understanding something about the scale look about these decals?  Does anyone know if the period this plane represents really only used two for the top wing?  And, if they do use four, are the equal size, that I can just use two more of the same decal sheet?

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