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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 P... - 6/15/2006 2:13:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah the plane will mix at different rates for all - but you about hit all the mixes on the head right there. The best thing to do is get a flying buddy with a pen and paper right next to you so you can tell him what you are doing. When you get done flying go over what you said and then start a mix or two at a time. If you have a good flying buddy or spotter they can look at your tx inputs also and make notes on things you dont realize.

Juan Romero has to be the smoothest 260 flyer I have seen.

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 P... - 6/16/2006 3:33:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dan, that throttle to rudder mix works pretty well. I watched you fly the uplines at Abilene and they were perfectly straight!! I don't think I need any mix myself but the wind was higher that I normally fly in so it was hard to tell because I needed rudder on the uplines both N and S uplines. It may be just right so I'll leave it alone for a while.

Bobby

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 P... - 6/16/2006 12:52:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am using these mix:
-throtle to throttle
-throtle to eleve
-throttle to rudder
-rudder-elevevator
-elevator to spoiler (2 servos for stab mix). This one could leave when i am going to get a matchbox.
-spoiler to spoiler to inhibit the spoiler pot

I really like the way it snaps and stall. That's the first plane i have where we could see the wing clearly stall before the spin entry. The inverted flat spins are so slow.....

Questions:
I am using 6 rubber flat washers between the cowl and the metal metric screws but the rubber washers on one side of the cowl break up after 5-6 flights? I bought them from my local hardware store. Would neoperene tubing be stronger than these rubber washers? The 6 holes for the cowl's screws began to enlarge.
Daniel

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 P... - 6/16/2006 1:53:55 PM   
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Questions:
I am using 6 rubber flat washers between the cowl and the metal metric screws but the rubber washers on one side of the cowl break up after 5-6 flights? I bought them from my local hardware store. Would neoperene tubing be stronger than these rubber washers? The 6 holes for the cowl's screws began to enlarge.
Daniel


I am using some soft plastic washers that compress when you tighten them. I found them at the local hardware store, along with some metric pan head machine screws. I use bonded washers on the hatch, have not had any problems.



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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/16/2006 2:39:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		You should be using the bonded washers on the cowl screws. Microfasteners has them, #8 will also fit on 4mm.

TF

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/16/2006 2:41:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Tom
Is #FWRB08 the right part number?

http://www.microfasteners.com/catalog/products/WASFWRB.cfm

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/20/2006 7:29:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a shot of the graphics after a nice day flying yesterday. I don't notice any coupling in knife edge, a lite roll to the right, but very manageable. I moved the CG back 1/4" and walls and water falls are the easiest of anything I've ever flown. Runs an up-line at 1/2 throttle like it's climbing a rope.

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/20/2006 2:11:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Scoubidou

Hi Tom
Is #FWRB08 the right part number?

http://www.microfasteners.com/catalog/products/WASFWRB.cfm


Yeah, that's it.

TF

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/20/2006 7:15:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I ordered some bonded washers to see if they work. In the meantime, i put metal washers inside the cowl over the holes and put a some fiberglass over it.

This will stop enlarging the cowl's holes

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/20/2006 9:23:00 PM   
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I ordered some bonded washers to see if they work. In the meantime, i put metal washers inside the cowl over the holes and put a some fiberglass over it.


Have you mounted the cowl since adding the metal washers? The reason I ask is that I had considered doing the same thing but my cowl fits nice and snug to begin with so I didn't think there would be enough "slop" to have room for washers. I thought about using grommets but didn't for the same reason. What I've done on different planes that works well is to epoxy a CA hinge on the inside of the cowl at each hole location and then put a thin layer of silicone over the hinge. The CA hinge helps to keep the cowl from cracking and holes from elongating, and the layer of silicone provides some vibration dampening. The silicone also helps to "stick" the cowl to the mounting tabs so vibration doesn't make the cowl giggle around as much (causing the holes to elongate). Something else I've done is to get large, thin rubber fender washers from the hardware store and cut out squares that are then glued onto the cowl's mounting tabs. Gluing the rubber washers on the tabs plus using the CA hinge/silicone idea provides good vibration dampening, plus the combination of the rubber washer and silicone really keeps the cowl stuck in place so the holes don't elongate.

Dan

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/21/2006 11:18:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anybody have any video of there 260 Flying. Also what weight are your 260's comming out at and how would power be with a ZDZ 80.

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/22/2006 12:37:28 AM   
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Have you mounted the cowl since adding the metal washers?


Yes I have, the flat washers are not very thick, about 1/16'' and they fit pertely with cowl.

2) Mine weight 23.5 lbs with super ZDZ-80, KS-95 canister and i can do the intermediate IMAC sequence under 40% throttle.
Daniel

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/22/2006 4:16:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ha ha 23.5 lbs with a DA 100!! My video should be floating around somewhere. www.airbornesgt.com

Click on one of them. Thats the old video...pretty old too! Now if Tony from Dalton would hurry up with my plane then I could get going on another one. The new one will be a little heavier as there will be things he changes like glassing the canopy hatch and all.

With as light as that plane is, I would imagine it would be awesome on the ZDZ 80. I hope this is a plane that Tom keeps for a while and if anything only makes slight changes to for improvement OR makes a composite version!

The 260 is just one sweet flying machine

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RE: Wild Hare Extra 260 ... - 6/23/2006 5:43:37 PM