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    YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/9/2005 6:42:37 PM   
    Easy does it


     

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    Status: offline     		OK guy's. I bit the bullet and ordered a 30% YAK from TOC1 seeing as none of you were brave enough to do it. Well I have been on the night shift for a couple of weeks and I got home this morning to find 2 boxes. Well I just had to open them up, I will have to say that I was very sceptical about this plane. I was not dissapointed, It is built very well, the covering is amazing and the paint work is first class. In about 3 hours I have mounted the motor Brison 3.2 wings, tail feathers landing gear and tail wheel. The wings fit the fuse perfectly so do the stab's. The instruction sheet is very vague on some points but if you have built a few planes no one will have any trouble putting it together. The included gas tank is more suited to a glow plane so I trashed that and the spinner is cut very small again more along the lines of a glow prop but i can cut it out easy enough.I am not sure about the horns,(heavy duty surface mount) but I think I will use them I want to see if this bird will fly out of the box I had to trash the tank or I would get about a 5 minute flight.I tried to post pics but I get the old "error saving to disc" message, if any one wants pics send me your E-mail and maybe you could post them for me.I do not know if I can get her in the air this weekend but I will give it my best shot,and let you know how it goes. Going to bed! Later.
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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/9/2005 7:25:34 PM   
    bodywerks



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    Status: offline     		I think you will enjoy this plane. Yes, the TOC is a little heavierthan the EF, but the EF flies like a glider, so I am sure an extra pound won't matter. Did you get the silver or purple? Have you checked the alignment if the wing and stab tubes? I am curious to see if this is a general problem with larger planes, or just specific to the EF Yak.

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/24/2005 8:52:43 AM   
    adrian-RCU



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    Status: offline     		well my toc yak is a great arf - superb quality and hardware - it came together in 2 days and looks pretty good - covering and general quality is better than my double vision and very much better than my friends wh - i use a zdz50ng and so far it works as good as my da50 - slightly better throttle response - 6 flights so far and all is well!!!

    took a small video on the weekend. enjoy!! marvelous 50cc plane!!!

    http://www.planesandmodels.com/images/surfervideos/yak_high.wmv

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/25/2005 5:31:45 AM   
    DKjens



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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: adrian-RCU
    well my toc yak is a great arf - superb quality and hardware - it came together in 2 days and looks pretty good - covering and general quality is better than my double vision and very much better than my friends wh - i use a zdz50ng and so far it works as good as my da50 - slightly better throttle response - 6 flights so far and all is well!!!

    took a small video on the weekend. enjoy!! marvelous 50cc plane!!!

    http://www.planesandmodels.com/images/surfervideos/yak_high.wmv


    Adrian, that's a bad ass video. I have one of the 40% Yaks, also in the purple scheme, and the quality of build and materials is very good. I've had some problems with the engine I chose for my Yak, so I've only had two flights on mine so far, but both were very promising. In other forums/site, where people don't jumb to conclusions about a manufacturer/importer before even seeing the first production model, all the TOC1 planes presently available, have been getting very good reviews. The 30, 35 and 40% Yaks, although large, and advertised to come out a bit heavy, seem to be perfect fits for the DA 50, 100 and 150 size engines. This may actually be an importer and website (www.toc1.com) where the advertised finished weight is higher than the real weight.
    DKjens

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/26/2005 8:24:37 AM   
    adrian-RCU



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    Status: offline     		well this plane does not fly heavy at all!!! its in fact a floater and at 16lbs1oz - with a zdz50 and tbm li ion;s - my double vision is heavier by at least a pound but it also flies absolutely great - bipes just do it different - the toc yak is probably the best 50cc arf out there!!!! and i have flown many of the others!!

    < Message edited by adrian-RCU -- 5/26/2005 8:26:23 AM >

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/26/2005 1:09:05 PM   
    dick Hanson



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    Status: online     		Adrian- your YAK video shws the plane responds very well .
    Our EF YAK also has the DZNG50 and power is extremely good w/AMTpipe and 23x8 JAS prop -or 22x8 Mejzlic-or anything that spins!
    Which prop worked best for you ? Or did you find it really was not too important.

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/27/2005 9:58:55 AM   
    adrian-RCU



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    Status: offline     		hi dick

    well the engine is really new so i am not yet trying to wring it out - i use a bolly 22x10 but i will try many props this week end - it will be a 23x8bolly wood, 22x10bolly carbon and a biela 22x8 - i will then post some stats - but i am impressed with the throttle response better than my da and it feels like the power is the same as the da so that means its great because the da set the bar for 50cc new generation engines pretty high - i also find that it starts very easy - many guys told me its a nightmare to start, not so!!!! its just different to the da with its reed valves - but i followed your(dick hansen) starting procedure to the tee and it really starts first time most of the time - i am impressed and will soon also buy a zdz160 champion this will also be tested against my da 150,

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/27/2005 11:15:28 AM   
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    < Message edited by bodyworks -- 6/3/2005 8:38:44 AM >

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/27/2005 3:05:21 PM   
    Columbo



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    Status: offline     		That was one of the most intense walls I have ever seen. The rolling harriers were awesome also.
    Nice flying plane and great flying skills. I am getting ready to test fly a KMP Yak which is a similar
    plane. It also has a ZDZ 50 and is my firs ZDZ engine. Glad to hear it starts easy and has plenty of
    power.

    Greg

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/27/2005 4:56:29 PM   
    DKjens



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    ORIGINAL: bodyworks
    Nice vid! I am suprised there isn't more hype about this plane. If I were on the waiting list for the EF yak and tese suddenly became available, I'd just buy one of these! After my little mishap with my composite gear on my EF Yak, I am starting to think that TOC had the right idea sticking with aluminum...simple and forgiving.


    Bodyworks,
    TOC1 got a bad rep. in this forum before anybody even saw the first production model or dealt with them. There are numerous people on this website, who apparently don't have better things to do, than concoct stories and innuendos about otherwise promising looking new products. I was astounded at how many pages a certain thread in this forum grew to, in which people did nothing but try to mis-credit these planes, their builder and their importer. And all this before even seeing a production model. I think perhaps many people who would be interested in these planes read this thread, and was scared away from buying one. I went ahead and bought a 40% Yak and I am more than satisfied. Matt, at TOC1 up in WA, is a pleasure to deal with, his service is first class, and he has been very professional about the whole !QUOT!storm in a cup!QUOT! in this forum.

    On the Cirkus site, where speculations and innuendos are not aired or even thought of, these planes have been described and criticized purely from first hand knowledge, and are receiving nothing but kudos, and many people are buying them. Another note worthy fact is, that just in the first 3 containers of these planes, the Yak54 has been available in 5 different covering schemes, something I've never seen before (diversity).
    DKjens

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/27/2005 5:08:05 PM   
    cbk07


     

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    Status: offline     		Adrian, thanks for posting the video. VERY nice flying!! You would be deadly with a 40% as you make the maneuvers look easy with a 30%. Glad to see the Yaks are flying so well. I see a 40% TOC in my near future. Keep having fun with it and again, great stick work. Craig

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    RE: YAK 54 TOC1 - 5/31/2005 8:29:38 AM   
    adrian-RCU



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    Status: offline     		thanks dude - this plane really flies well - i have a 40% on order - great value too!!!

    best adrian

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