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Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/10/2005 9:06:47 PM   
rtparr


 

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Status: offline 		Have looked unsuccessfully on the net for info on Seidel's radials--displacements, prices, etc., and haven't been able to locate anything, except occasional references by people who say they are great. I don't know if they are glow, ignition or whatever. Am looking to buy a radial for my Dave Platt Waco WMF-3, and would like to cover my bases before buying. Can anybody steer me to a dealer, US or Europe? Dick
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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/11/2005 6:40:14 AM   
Reg Hinnant



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Status: offline 		Hi Dick,
They used to be sold by Proctor. I have heard they will be marketed again in Europe.
They originally produced 3 models. All glow.
ST540 5 cyl - 2.388ci - 2.8 hp - 7.87 dia - 3.96lb 18x8
ST770 7 cyl - 4.174ci - 4.0 hp - 9.05 dia - 5.73lb 22x10
ST996 9 cyl - 5.800ci - 5.4 hp - 10.31 dia - 7.49lb 22x14
the original version (OS) of these engines looks like an older radial. The later version (NS)looks more like a WW2 radial (thick pushrods, etc.)
I have an original (OS) 7 cyl like the one that Charlie Nelson used in his Waco on the Scale Masters curcuit a number of years back. NIB. PM me if you would be interested

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/11/2005 7:43:34 AM   
William Robison



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Here is the Seidel web site. Currently inactive, but it comes up now and then.

Here are some pictures for you. They are all of the 14 cylinder engine.

Bill.


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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/11/2005 9:03:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just saw an advertisemant for these yesterday. I don't remember right offhand who is importing/distributing them here in the US. I don't have the magazine's handy for reference with me, but I'll check when I get home from work, tomorrow am. I want to say it was Rich Uravich's company in Florida. Don't give up hope! I'll check and get back with you.

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/11/2005 11:29:53 AM   
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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/11/2005 2:44:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		According to the July 2005 issue of Model Airplane News, Nick Ziroli Plans now distributes the Seidel engine line, including the ST525 5 cylinder (7.62CI) the ST770 7 cylinder (4.17CI) and the ST726 & cylinder (10.98CI). There's also the ST1450- twin row 14 cylinder, 30.51 cubic inch monster. This is on page 27 of the July issue. There is no phone number or address given, but I'm sure a web search or an R/C Universe search would turn up contact information for the company. Hope this helps, Rich

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/13/2005 3:47:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm intrested let me know. thank you steve

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/14/2005 7:38:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks to all of you for the great response to who is selling Seidel engines! I was looking for a radial to put in my Dave Platt Waco, and heard so much about it. Now I know. On a related note, I was wondering if any one out there knows how many hours you can get out of a Saito radial, specifically the 90, which is about the right size for my Waco. I contacted Technopower with the question of how many hours their radial would run without an overhaul, given today's metallurgy and manufacturing standards, and he said about 50. That doesn't seem like very many for a radial, especially if you plan to put a lot of hours (God willing) on the plane I'm finishiing. If the life of a radial is just a fraction of a twin or single cylinder, I will have to rethink my powerplant. Again, my thanks to everyone who replied. Dick

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/14/2005 10:01:33 AM   
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I am writing from Germany. I have contributed to the topic of Seidel radials in a few other threads already. You might have seen them...

I have two 770ies (the old version of the 710) and a 996 and - naturally - am totally in love with Seidel radials. As far as TBO goes (Time between overhaul): I cannot immagine that only 50 hours is the number! Think about it this way: You are operating seven 10cc four stroke engines, each of wich never exceeds 5000 rpm... They would last forever! I have not had any problems with the radials. And they are about 10 years old or more. They start on first throw, run very very smoothly with hardly any vibration and the sound - oh the sound... Thats just unbelievable!

The down side: As much as I love the engines I don't like Seidel's customer orientation and sevice! Well, frankly, there is none!! He seems to have some kind of problem that I cannot identify, but all rumors about the availability of new Seidels are to be viewed with caution! Personally I do not believe, that Mr. Seidel will make a number of engines and deliver them any time soon... I have heard of people who ordered and paid in advance and are still waiting - after years!!! Yes, he was at the trade fair in Germany and I wonder how many angry and upset people visited his booth...
So your best bet is to get a used one....
I have a continuous search in German **** where I bought all of my Seidels. If one pops up I can let you know, if you mail me your e-mail address...
Anyway, if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask...
Cheers, Martin
Here's my website where I show the process of building the cowling for the Seidel: click on me
Here are some pics of my Seidel in my Focke Wulf FW 44 "Stieglitz":




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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/14/2005 10:27:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Spuetz

Hello,


So your best bet is to get a used one....
I have a continuous search in German **** where I bought all of my Seidels.


I know what you mean... Me too... I'm looking for a nice Kavan 50cc twin (to use), one of the Seidels (to look at and listen to)... and perhaps an ASP 400 radial...

Ah well, I'm patient... I'll get there....

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/17/2005 10:38:19 AM   
Spuetz



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Status: online 		Hello Guys,
been talking about Seidels so much, I had to change my avatar... Now it's clearer: I am the "Seidel-Guy..."

Cheers, Martin

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/17/2005 6:31:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a brand new ST770 for sale. I purchased it new and it has never been run. It has the rear exhaust collector & electronic glow driver. Complete with manuals, tools & wood box.
Send me a Private Message if your interested so that I can email you.

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/19/2005 7:30:59 PM   
rtparr


 

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Status: offline 		Hi Reg--I was the original post about who is selling Seidel radials. I'm sorry to be late getting back to you, but I'm sitting over here in Norway at the moment, and I had to make a run to Sando in southern Norway to celebrate 17th of May, Norway's Fourth of July, and just got back last night. I'll be returning to the States in about ten days, to my little farm in Oregon with the million dollar view to the mountains, and my dream of doing some VR flying behind a radial engine. Let me know what you want for your Seidel. I can say right now it's too big for the Dave Platt Waco I'm finishing after almost thirty years, but there are other models I would definitely think about putting it in. It seems most people collect Seidel and Technopower radials to look at, rather than run, and I'm looking for an engine I can put hundreds of hours on. If a Seidel is a real collector's item, and if Mr. Seidel is way behind in his production as Martin Spuetz on this post noted earlier, just how does one go about getting parts to rebuild it when the time comes?

That by the side, Reg. Let me know what you're asking, and let me have your email address so I can take it with me back to the States and contact you from there later this summer if you still have it. Dick

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RE: Who is selling Seidel radial engines? - 5/19/2005 7:38:48 PM   
rtparr


 

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Status: offline 		Hi Martin! Thanks for your offer to look for a Seidel for me. I just answered Reg about his