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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/5/2006 4:38:49 AM   
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In response to your inquiry about carbon fiber rods and control systems, I've been using nothing BUT C/F rods for all my planes for the last several years due to their superior strength, resistance to deflection loads, and lighter weight. I haven't used them on anything over 30 pounds or so yet, but they have worked well for others at weights over 40 pounds. All I fly is giant sacle in one form or another, so I'd say the C/F rods work out pretty darn well.

Look at the pics I posted of my Ultimate and you should see a C/F rod or two in some of them.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/5/2006 2:23:31 PM   
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I used the fuel tank that came in Tom's Hardware package. I can't remember right now if it was 20 or 24 oz. In one of the photos I posted, I had moved the tank forward so folks could see the plate I used to mount the receiver. Because it's pushed forward, it might look as if I had a smaller tank mounted in there.

Hope that clarifies. Enjoy your assembling. I will be re-configuring my setup from the pictures I posted earlier. I ordered a set of 1100 NiMH batteries from NoBS batteries to replace the hobbico 1600's in the pictures. It'll take about 2 days to do all the formatting charges they recommend, and then I'll need to see where to place them for balance. Hopefully, it doesn't require major mods in my setup.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/5/2006 6:47:41 PM   
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Thank you for the quick reply. I recall from some other threads that a 16 oz tank was usually sufficient for 10 - 15 minute flight on a 50cc (and would leave a suitable reserve without hauling extra fuel around).

I'm using NoBS NiMHs as well - great product. Currently measuring 3x to cut (the cowl) 1x. My BME 50 requires some standoffs so I'm triple checking the distance to go with the Hanger9 mounts that I am using.

v/r

tom

Still searching for a "wild hare" pilot, though...at least Easter is coming so I have plenty of applicants!!

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/7/2006 5:55:29 PM   
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Thank you for doing such a great job with this thread - I especially appreciate the detailed cowl cut-out pix.

Does anyone know if the DA50 cylinder head and pitts muffler combo has about the same size/shape as a BME 50 cylinder head/pitts combination (as regards cutting the WH Ultimate Cowl)?

Any pix of a BME cowl cut-out would be very much appreciated.

Also, any considerations for using standoffs with a BME? I'm thinking about mocking them up with wood dowls (to get the measurements & spacing and then asking Roger Forgues to make a custom set for me. Kind of a 'Pimp my ride" approach...

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/7/2006 11:23:55 PM   
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Thank you for doing such a great job with this thread - I especially appreciate the detailed cowl cut-out pix.


You are very welcome, I sure wish I could help you with your BME dilema but I am afraid I can't. Hopfully some one will chime in for you.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/8/2006 12:40:06 AM   
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Thank you very much for the quick reply. No worries - you have provided a wealth of assistance already and I just wanted to say thank you.

I found measurements for the DA50 (including dimensioned drawings!) on the DA website - I think I can work it out...now, where is that tape measure....

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/15/2006 3:11:56 PM   
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I'm disappointed with my attempts to make the cowl cut-out look decent (apparently my dremel thought it was in charge). Its not a total loss or anything, but I'd like to try it again - Do you sell replacement cowls (or is there a 3d party vendor that does)?

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/15/2006 4:53:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes we have spares for the Ultimate in stock. Please call me at 817-430-0107 to order.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/20/2006 6:47:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		For those who might be considering a BME 50 for their ultimate, the Hanger 9 1.20 - 1.80 aluminum mount (recommended by Keith at BME Engines) works very well with the SWB Manufacturing 1"-1-7/16" Motor Stand Off kit.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/26/2006 4:41:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I bought a World Models Ultimate about 8 months ago. Shortly afterwards, however, I got very busy at work and had to put my R/C stuff on hold for a bit. So... the plane sat in the box collecting dust. Recently, I decided to get serious about building my first gasser/ultimate bipe. However, I've been reluctant to start building the World Models plane because I really wanted a Wild Hare Ultimate all along. (I only purchased the World Models bipe because it was a bit cheaper.) Anyway, I finally decided that saving a few bucks isn't the priority and that I should buy the plane I want. Unfortunately, today I found out that they are out of stock of the yellow scheme and will be for 3-4 months! Doh!!

Tom, please let us know when you get more planes in... I can wait a bit longer I suppose.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/26/2006 6:04:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the mean time you can get the WM plane in the air to practice with until your color comes in. I had a couple of them and they are pretty fun, but 3D is out of the question. Nowhere near as capable as the Wild Hare, but a good way to get into the swing of things. Did WM ever do away with that flat abortion they called a cabane strut?

BTW, there's an Ultimate for sale here in the W/H forum. Don't know what color but you might want to make contact to find out.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/28/2006 1:21:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		For those about to, or currently setting set up an Ultimate, an addendum to the C/G notes in the instructions should be added not to exceed 6-7/8" aft of the leading edge of the top wing measured from the "point". Anything aft of that point will be exceeding the maximum aft C/G limit for the plane, and can leave you with a plane dangerously quick and loose on the controls.

An excellent location for superb performance will be in the 6-1/2" to 6-3/4" range.

Pat

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/29/2006 4:34:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well since I was running the tape measure for Pat I can agree not to exceed 6-7/8th.
By the way Pat where did it end up at??? I still think you need at least 1/2 forward of where you are.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 3/29/2006 4:40:40 AM   
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