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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 6/26/2005 1:08:53 PM   
GRANT ED



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Status: offline 		Your right. That is butt ugly. How did it fly?

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 6/27/2005 1:34:38 AM   
ICE_MAN



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Status: offline 		I like it... I wish you'd produce that one!



But back on topic... I've been searching for 50cc planes.. How would this be for a first Gasser and first Biplane!

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 6/27/2005 4:09:27 AM   
Ken Bryant



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How would this be for a first Gasser and first Biplane!


I would not make this your first Bipe. I had only flown a Hog Bipe prior to this plane and I find it to fly VERY different than what I am used to. You might consider one of hte 40size ultimate bipes that are out there first. As for first Gasser, that I would also have to say try something else. This is more of a builders plane and it has special needs during construction. It helps to already know what to do in a Gasser prior to building this plane.

Not saying you can't do it, I'm only saying I wouldn't do it.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 6/27/2005 4:01:32 PM   
ICE_MAN



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Status: offline 		Thanks Ken,

I'm thinking of different planes now.. This one for later.

THanks,

Cody

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 8/28/2005 3:22:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Been following this thread for a while now... Was working on a WACO with a Brison 2.4 40cc... Fell in love with the Wildhare Ultimate! Finished my WACO, been flying the heck out of it and love it... Keep going back to the videos of the Ultimate... AAAAGggggggggggggg I'm hooked LOL Sold my Byron P-47 Thunderbolt to build this AWSOME BIRD!!! Called in the order for the Wildhare Ultimate today... Sent money in the mail... motor 3.2 Brison ordered already paid for... All sevos and parts ordered... Now sitting like a Panting DOG waiting for a treat!!! : )

WACO & P-47 I sold... Hope it's worth it? I'm sure it will be.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 8/29/2005 2:00:40 AM   
Ken Bryant



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Status: offline 		I just wanted to add some new info on my plane. I removed the covering off the bottom of the plane back to where the yellow starts. This gave me access to the underside of the cockpit. I installed 2 basswood cross beams and mounted my LiIon Battery on it. This moved it back about 6 inches. I also moved my ignition battery back 3 inches. This moved my CG back about 3/4". BOY what a differnece this made. THe plane lands so much easier now. Inverted still requires allot of elevator but it's better.

I think I am going to add some wieght to the back end and pull the CG back some more. I'll add 1/2oz at a time till I get it where I want it.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 8/29/2005 2:38:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		so does this put it at 6-3/4 back from the leading edge of the top wing? the manual says 6-1/2 im a little confussed as to where you are at.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 8/29/2005 3:37:05 AM   
BULL-RCU



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Status: offline 		If there is any pointers or tips I sould pay attention too for you guys who have built the plane please give me warning. I will go back through the thread but time has past since the beginning and I'm sure a few of your ideas have changed since then. Any help it GREAT HELP!!! The great thing about RCU. Learn from those who have done!
Thanks!!!

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 8/29/2005 4:07:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hints:
1. Pull the covering off one side of the forward side to make fuel lines and tank installation easier.
2. Pull covering off area just aft of lower wing mount all the way to the yellow (bulkhead here). Reinforce with epoxy and fiberglass the entire lower wing mount and attach points to bulkheads. While you are here create a mount for your main battery and mount it in the furthest aft section you can. Having this area exposed will also allow for easier install of a rudder servo and it's cables.
3. Watch the main landing gear it does tend to flex and flatten on hard landings.

These are just some of the things I have done to make my life a little better with this plane.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 8/29/2005 4:34:28 PM   
BULL-RCU



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Status: offline 		I plane on using B&B Landing gear re-enforcments. I used them on my WACO and they work great!.

Thanks Ken any thing else you come up with feel free to share the knowledge!!! : )

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 8/29/2005 10:06:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I added these wires and springs for the landing gear to keep the gear from flatening out. I slid pieces of nyrod into the fuel dot and the fuel input line and the fuel vent line and attached them to the fuel tank from the whole where the wing mounts to get the tank into place and have all my lines where i wanted them.

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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 9/6/2005 3:53:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Finally got my Ultimate in the air. First flights are allways nerve rackning, however it went perfect.
My Ultimate is set-up this way: (I hope to answer a few concerns people have had)
Engine: Stock Zenoah G-62 W/ a home made stainless steel pitts style muffler. (no battery ingition)
Battery: 6 volt KR-1700AU 1700 mah (weight-6.5 oz.) set in the fuselage as far back as possible
CG-about 1/4" - 1/2" behind the recomended location. (I will use this setting for a while as it required little down elevator when inverted.
Servoes-Aileron- futaba S9402 x 2 (I used only 2 aileron servoes and connected the top and bottom with a pushrod)
Elevator- tower TS-70 X 2
rudder- Hitech HS945MG X 1 (in tail location)
Fuel tanks- 1- 4oz. header tank, 1- 24 oz. main tank located on the CG
Incidence- as recomended
Tail wires- 4-40 wires (metal solder clevis/ Dubro plastic - metal pin)
Control throws- AS RECOMENDED
WEIGHT- 20 LBS w/o fuel ****************************(corrected so to a scale error)
First flight thoughts: it only required 3 clickes left and 1 click down to flyhands off
pitches to the belly and rolls rt in a left knife edge (not much though)
VERTICLE --- OUT OF SIGHT
Hover- good (easier than my 1/4 scale Gene Saucy Exrta)
Tracks- Very good through loops
Inverted - Small amount of down
Spins - Very nice Flat on high rate and very nice and predicable natural spin (elevator and rudder only) on low rate
Snap rolls- good and clean
More to come, maybe tomorrow.
THANKS FOR THE GREAT BUILD THREAD, THE INFO WAS A VALUED HELP.
The only thing I didn't like was the instructions and they weren't that bad






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RE: Wildhare Ultimate Build Thread - 9/6/2005 4:12:24 AM   
BULL-RCU



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Status: offline 		OK .... thought my Ultimate would be here Friday but with the Holiday... Or what ever reason UPS bounced my Delivery date till tomorrow... What's a few more days to this hungry Dog! Will be rushing home from work to open this box...

Any one who reads this thread and are interested in this BIPLANE give the owner of Wildhare a call speaking to them will push you over the edge and buy one of his planes... I must have buged him 2 - 3 times before purchasing and every time he had all the time in the world for my questions... What great people...

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