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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 2/11/2006 3:38:46 AM   
credence


 

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Status: offline 		I believe cheatscalc was referring to the 36, not 39. He's a big #36 advocate on the forums .

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or i... - 2/11/2006 4:38:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Credence. - Sonds like a fun bird though at that price, and it sounds like he sure likes the 36.

JD

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 1:46:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I destroyed my #36 on the first crash...after about 20 hovers. Just when I thought I had it dialed in, it freaks out and disintigrates when it hits a couch! I tried to use the electronics in a Shogun V2 body, but had to replace all to achieve stable flight. Bottem line is it's a cheap way to get to hover mode briefly, but will cost much to get beyond that...if you can get it beyond that. Good luck!

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 3:30:13 AM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		Mongrul,

Thats part of what this experiment is about. How good are they compared to the Venom. One thing for sure we got over 150.00 in spare parts. The parts seem to be interchangealble, and I suppose so are the electronics. But even not counting the electronics it was a good deal. Just lipo I bougt was $45.00 This came with a lipo and lipo charger. Then there are all the parts on top of that including two sets of blades.

It cost 109 plus 42 so I need to end up with $150. now only a $100 after the battery.

Lets see if it flies.

JD



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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 11:11:47 AM   
eLviSH



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Status: offline 		for the #36
I've said it before, and am saying it again
most of the people writting negative comments are below the age of 15 :P
Walkera products have cheap electronics we all agree.
But as J-ken said "Not precise as T-REX. Without any upgrade, 36# is not as precise as T-REX/X400. I will give 85 point to T-REX and 75 to 36# (after tuning)"
This is if you want to try 3d flight..

http://www.heli-fever.com/download/video/36_JK.wmv
http://www.heli-fever.com/download/video/36_Test_3.wmv

extra money:

hitec servo set (3xhs55 + 1Xhs50) = 55dollars
futaba GY240 = 100dollars

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If you add this to the brushless model from walkera with the lipo pack:
Walkera #36 B + 1800 lipo = 180 dollars

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All together = 335 dollars
Still much cheaper than any t-rex

If you hate the quality, try t-rex, it breaks the same. If you dont know how to fly dont blame the heli.
if you hate walkera give 200 dollars ang get a t-rex ,without the parts you already have (and those that can be used on it)
total= 535 dollars the price of a t-rex (you didnt loose much , did you?)

For the walkera #4

one of the best of walkeras products
no extras needed normaly, but if you want to take it to the next step
hitec servo (2 x hs55)= 25 dollars
lipo battery 1800 = 30 dollars
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with the walkera #4 = 100 dollars
- all together = 155 dollars

with 155 you cant even buy half the heli of the same size from an other brand......


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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 4:25:09 PM   
consultjdm


 

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What you say is true,

Just one thing, I can get Trex parts down the street and I have to send away for Walkera Parts.

If you know what your doing and the Walkera is a second heli, the Walkera is probably the right product for you. I would buy another. I am thinking about the new all aluminum frame #60

JD

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 6:20:12 PM   
eLviSH



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Status: offline 		i wouldnt go for it, i mean , wait for other people to put down their experience, and then go for it.

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 7:15:46 PM   
consultjdm


 

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I am sure there are forums out there someone could check, but I am pretty experienced and my opinion is better than that of a novice.

And hey, if you get a bad one I am sure you can return it, (get insurance) .


My opinion is that it worked after fixing the transmitter gimbles.

And this hobby is for people who can do repairs and take stuff apart and put it back together again.

I am not disagreeing with you really, just saying I think the 22E is great for spare parts, good for a more docile heli, but I will do more testing, give me a few weeks and the jury will be in!and I will have a final appraisal!!! haha

JD


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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 11:15:44 PM   
eLviSH



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Status: offline 		I wrote my response while i was in a hurry, so it might off came out wrong.
First off my name is john nice to meet you
second i would rather buy a t-rex
The great thing about t-rex is that you can build them up slowly so if you dont have the money to buy it all at once, enjoy it like a puzzle.
I saw some pictures of the walkera #60
http://cgi.ebay.de/NEW-RELEASE-Dragonfly-60-Helicopter-6CH-radio-control_W0QQitemZ6042520062QQcategoryZ110026QQcmdZViewItem
there you can see it better,
sorry to say but the metal main frame looks funny
its like they used the 36 with a metal body and a 7 ch transmitter.
I mean the design sucks. Its metal not aluminium, meaning that in case of a crash it will bend easily.
And they could at least look out for the design....
Maybe this heli is a miracle, maybe it will be the best flying heli. But out of 10 i give a 2 for the design...
sorry to say that.

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 11:29:06 PM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		elvish (John),

I sure hope your wrong about the 60. But you are right it is a 36 with a 7 channel transmitter and a better HH gyro and servos. Or so they say.

I have talked to others that say the #36 was one of their best flying models, better than the 39 that I considered.

Anyway I have a TREX I will be putting to gether. The main thing for me was I wanted to get a few different ones so I could compare them.

They were only $250. My TREX was more like $500.

JD

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 11:36:25 PM   
eLviSH



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Status: offline 		this is exactly my dilema,
am thinking should i pimp my walkera 36? or save the money for t-rex
i already got the servos , the gyro and xi xi carbon boom from align ( carbon booms are the best )
i will be buying a metal tail unit (because they go with the t-rex ) so i dont consider it a waste.
But i just want to be able to fly my #36 high and safe before investing into a t-rex
You seem like a man with a lot of experience (at least a lot more than me)
but image a person with 2 months experience having in the air a 500 dollars worth of a heli
xaxaxaaaaxa (make a mistake, cry for the night)

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 11:41:47 PM   
eLviSH



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Status: offline 		by the way so you lovely boats, my father had one, (rots in the garaz) i still have its sail in my room, check out
just took it with my webcam so low quality..
http://image.rcuniverse.com/gallery/galleryimages/lg-46239.jpg

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/10/2006 11:56:46 PM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		Elvish,

That is exactly what I am trying to learn so I can share my experience with others.

I bought the best, Or near, My logo 10 and my carbon XL TREX a loaded Showgun.

Then I bought some others and now I am trying out this Walkera stuff.

So I should be able to compare them.

One thing is that the TREX and LOGO 10 and showgun do not come with transmitters, so there goes another $200.

Sure a $200 transmitter has a bunch of nice options. But what does it mean?

I just hover the Heli's for now and it may make a big difference if I was trying to fly in competition. But for just everyday hovering I bet they all work, and for loops and rolls most work.

I would think you could put on a better Gyro and motor and fly the hell out of the Walkera.

And my carbon stuff that I have had breaks just as easily as the aluminum or other stuff, It just costs more it seems and looks better.

You can stick most of it back together with glue and duck tape so heck as long as they fly.

I'd say do what you can afford. The more expensive the bird the more it will cost to maintain. I haven't had one yet fly itself and stay whole. If you drag the tail you might start to spin then flip over and die, and they all do that.

The bigger the more stable, so, buy big if you have the space. My logo is so big I don't like flying it as much as the NR3D out front. No space to fly it around. The NR3D I can fly in a nice little square pattern out on the street. And it is pretty cheap to fix after a big crash.

Good Luck, I'm sure we will be discussing the merits of them forever.

JD


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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/11/2006 12:00:12 AM   
consultjdm


 

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Status: offline 		Yeah I like the boats too!

haha

JD

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RE: Walkera products, are they really that bad, or is... - 3/11/2006 2:04:10 AM   
credence


 

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Status: offline 		The idea is to buy one very capable transmitter for four or five hundred dollars and then not worry about it, since you can use the same tx on multiple models. Otherwise buying a new tx for every model is going to get expensive

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