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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 6/29/2005 2:00:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just bought the JR 9303 and I have been using a Futaba 9C. The 9303 IMO is much easier to program and I don't miss the 9C at all. I'm sure the MZ14 is a great radio but for whom? Who can afford one? Personally I think Futaba made a mistake in putting all of it's focus on developing a radio the the vast majority of the people in this hobby can't afford. That's why I bought the JR 9303. So does JR really need an answer to the MZ14? If JR does come up with an answer to the MZ14 it would just be another radio I can't afford.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 6/29/2005 11:23:23 AM   
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I'm sure the MZ14 is a great radio but for whom? Who can afford one? Personally I think Futaba made a mistake in putting all of it's focus on developing a radio the the vast majority of the people in this hobby can't afford. That's why I bought the JR 9303. So does JR really need an answer to the MZ14? If JR does come up with an answer to the MZ14 it would just be another radio I can't afford.

That's what I say about the 10X. I can't afford one and I wonder why JR developed a radio that a vast amount of people can't afford. But the fact is that some people will buy them. That's what Futaba was thinking(my guess). It also gives them bragging rights to the best more advanced RC radio producer. I guess that's what JR is thinking as they are developing a comparable radio to the 14MZ according to Mike's previous post . I don't have the money for a 10X much less a 14MZ and probably will never need a 9Z even though the price keeps dropping.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 6/29/2005 12:34:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I myself own a JR PCM 9X (Japanese version of 9303) and I love it. The ergonomics, esthetics lustre, sticks, MMI every thing is perfected to its best. I do have the 9CAP it is also a good radio but the feel is very boxy and it clearly loses to 9X both in functionality and in features.

JR always stood a step ahead of Futaba in the technology race. JR always had the edge in technology in their hi-end premium product vs Futaba`s Premium Product.

It is not a price game it is a game of technological brilliance of both the companies.

Let us wait and see who wins this time.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 6/29/2005 4:09:34 PM   
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1. Allows you to fly your model to the best of its and your ability.
2. Works reliably flight after flight.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 6/30/2005 12:34:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jr's new full page ad where they make a stab at the 14mz is pure comedy gold. Give that marketing guy/gal a raise.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/1/2005 5:31:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just rear it and it was very stupid. JR should be sued for the missinformation in it.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/5/2005 5:02:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Guys, just look at the developments in the Spread Spectrum technology that there is. What I want (I own a 10X and have since they came out) is a radio to replace the 10X that has SS technology. That KILLS the 14mz. It wouldn't need a color screen, Windows or any other gimmick Futaba has if it has SS technology. That will be the biggest step forward in radion technology since proportional systems came out. Who cares if you can play MP3s' on it if you do have to worry about getting shot down or RF problems!!!

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/5/2005 11:49:17 AM   
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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/5/2005 2:19:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: woops

Read the new JR add and see if you want to own a JR radio.



I hit the link but don't see a JR ad.


As for the value of a 14MZ, that is up to the individual. There will always be high end, feature rich radios, cars, TVs, whatever, that most people can't afford. So what?

The companies who make them find them profitable and eventually the features make their way into the lower part of the line. So look at the 14MZ and maybe you have a preview of what will be in the mid range radio two-three years from now.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/5/2005 10:35:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree there aeajr. By the way, there wasn't a link. I read it in the latest MAN.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/7/2005 10:57:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you post a scanned copy of that ad, I d love to see it!

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/8/2005 3:20:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll try to do that soon. I'll also explain why their marketing person should be fired.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/8/2005 2:39:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		First paragraph,
JR is working on a glitzy radio according to MMcConville's earlier post. What would JR users say if they got that radio and Futaba alledged that the 9Z was better because it had proven reliability over this new JR. When a new radio comes out, a potential buyer has to decide if it's for them. When the 10X came out it was a glitzy radio, Should Futaba have run a similar add?

Second paragraph, RC jets usually need as many channels as they can get. For many years the 10X had the most channels. Now that Multiplex came out with a 12 channel, many jet pilots switched from JR to it. Now that Futaba has 14, many are starting to use it. The fact that 85%(according to the add) use the 10X is not an acid test. If Futaba came out with a similar add in 2 years that stated that 95% of jet pilots use the 14MX, would JR think that funny? (especially if Futaba claimed that that was a real acid test)

Third paragraph,
The only manuel that I've seen for a radio at the field is a 10X that is in the back of a trailer. I brought the manuel to my 9C to the field the first time I used it, but didn't need the manuel.

Fourth paragraph,
The add states, "And finally, while price is rarely the deciding factor when considering a pro-class radio, the 10 X is an out-and-out bargain. So if flying's what you intend to do with your pro-class radio, check out the PCM10X at your dealer's now." Jr is alledging that if you don't use a 10X you don't fly. That would include all Futaba, other top-end JR, Hitec, Multiplex, Airtronics, (and any that I forgot) top end radios. The 14MX has twice the features of the 10X and cost almost twice as much. My 9C has half the features as the 10X, but cost nearly 33% of the 10X.


If Futaba comes out with an add like this, I won't have a very good opinion of them and I would push very hard for the firing of their marketing guy also. I don't work for any manufacturer and am not sponsored by any.


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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/8/2005 2:48:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		It looks like I wasn't able to load the file. If anyone has a good connection and can post it I will send it to them. If you want to let me know, my e-mail is woops@rica.net.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/8/2005 6:44:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's not even the ad I was referring to in the above post. The ad I'm referring to (I'll have to dig it out) somply had a one liner at the top about how JR radios didn't have the bells and whistles of a Futaba radio like the ability to play MP3's but it sure worked on flyinig a plane. In a funny whity way. The rest of the ad was a picture of a 10x.

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RE: JR's Answer to Futaba MZ14 - 7/8/2005 10:14:43 PM