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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/12/2006 2:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry to hear about your glitching l0sts0ul; everyone i know who has an electron 6 is entirely satisfied with it. I wonder if vibration has finally detuned yours after long term use. I'm sure it can be serviced.

I must have been extremely unlucky with my 05ms, i know for a fact a lot of people are using it without any problems; it wouldn't be on the market anymore if everyone's experience with it went like mine did. Range test it and fly it with confidence i'm sure yours will be just fine. I didn't want to spook you. I'm really jinxed when it comes to receivers. I also had a problem with a sombra labs esc, it has "memory" so that when it looses signal it would hold last known position for one second. I remember doing a roll at about 100 feet above the ground, then i straigntened her out with the sticks, only to see the plane do another full roll before responding! I was lucky enough to be able to bring it in and returned the rx and exchanged it with a fma direct. Wich is working fine (knock on wood)



i think i understand what you mean Matt14x, not as in an out of body experience of course, but more immagining yourself in the cockpit of the plane with the sticks in front of you. If that's the case then yes. But i think it has more to do with the hours spent on the sim goofing around and flying wrecklessly. As time goes by aerobatics get easier and recovering from "impossible" mistakes becomes more of a reflex than something we need to think about. Their is no way i could have learned to fly solo like this in such a short time without the sim. You can do in hours what would normally take you months and tons of $$$ to repair/replace broken planes. I never had the chance to fly through a buddy box, except my friends nitro planes but i allready knew what i was doing by then and big nitro planes are so easy to fly by comparison, so that doesn't count.

I am going to teach a friend of mine how to fly. I will definitely try my best to make sure his plane survive his first flights. For now before he even builds his first plane i "ordered" him to fly 2h a day on afpd, when we get to the field with an easy to fly plane that i first trim for him he shouldn't even need me to release the trainer button but if he does i'll be ready! I'd love to be a real instructor some day. Maybe even do a little competition too, but i'll only do it if i'm having fun.



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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/12/2006 4:21 PM   
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I meant exactly what you wrote in your response to flying. Sort of like using body english. Alot of pilots never accomplish that, Well anyway, I hope to get there some day.

Lost

I"m still going to put my hitec o5ms in an old bird for awhile when I get it. Probably because it"s my first SC.
Aflipz brought out a good point. "viberation". I never wrap my recs in foam in my electric birds. I will now.

Too windy in Indiana to fly. I think I'll foam my recievers.

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/12/2006 4:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		aflipz and I seem to have the same issues with receivers. I tend to be very unlucky lol.

The Electron 6 has been extremely solid for an entire season on a different transmitter. It was only recently when I started using my Futaba 7CHP transmitter that I've started seeing these glitches. The transmitter always range checks fine. Well over 100 feet with the tx antenna down on the electron 6. It is odd. I have not had any glitching with the 7CHP on any of my other planes though. Only the one with the Electron in it. I used to use a Hitec Laser 4 with that plane and never had an issue. Maybe the hitec and futaba mix are not as good as hitec to hitec. Who knows. I've not really researched the problem in depth yet. The glitches are very minimal but annoying.

If you wanna talk about bad experiences with recievers check out my post over on another forum about the GWS receivers. A lot of people have no issues with them but I've had nothing but trouble. Here's the post.

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/12/2006 5:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes i heard enough about gws before buying my first rx. I am lucky enough to have an exceptionnally honest hobby shop owner. he can have 12 units of any given product on the shelf, ready to sell yet if he thinks it's junk he will not let you buy one without giving you repeated verbal warnings, gws micro rx's are one of those products. Eflite blade cx's are another... He'll stock and sell them because people ask for them but he'll tell you his honest opinion, a rare thing in sales these days. just think of the 30+ minutes running times of you know who's hydro foam...



So your problems with your electron 6's symptoms are very similar to my 05ms's When i sent it in the first time it came back with a service note saying "re-tuned". in your case it may have moved because of vibtation or shock, maybe if they re-tune it it will be fine. But since mine has been re-tuned and failed at first flight after that i am guessing the mechanical/electronic adjustment device is faulty and doesn't stay in tune after adjustment, kind of like a walmart guitar. I have stopped fighting over it, it's in the bottom of my parts box right now and i guess i'll just toss it in the trash, your state of mind really affects the fun factor and quality of flight time, if you don't trust your rx what can you trust? I am looking forward to my castle creations/berg experience. at least if something does go wrong i can count on their outstanding service.


On another note, i went to fly today as weather was good, overcast but low wind. I flew 2 packs to the lvc, somewhere near the end of the 3rd pack i got a little too cocky and it didn't quite respond as fast as i would have liked, slapped the left pontoon a little too hard on the ice, 4 inches higher she'd be fine anyway, the motor mount snapped and there's a bunch of little airframe damage here and there.

I wont have much time to fly this week anyways and the winds were picking up. I will repair the damage as best i can, get it ready to fly and start my 2nd build. When it is ready i will swap the electronics into it and hand the old one to someone who will enjoy it. I'll do my best to shave some weight on my next one to make this power system work better, still feels on the weak side in the hovering department. Has plenty of prop speed and very little roll on throttle compared to my previous setup, wich did have a little more power per amp but made the mho a little roll twitchy with throttle.

(now 1300kv 30 gram ebay outrunner and 7x4 apc sf prop, then; rimfire 47gram 8x3.8 1000kv)

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/12/2006 7:11 PM   
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Without your permission, I referenced your post on range check in another thread titled Range Check. I hope you don"t mine.

Sorry to hear about your mho crash. It Just had to be the wind or the grounds" falt. I bought two mhos also. Been having to much fun with the first build to start on it. think I"ll wait untill I learn more obout elect. before I start.

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/12/2006 7:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		that's allright, no problem for the referencing. I'm allmsot done rebuilding it. If anything it'll be stiffer than before and will have gained very little weight thanks to microballoons

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/13/2006 2:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		You've got that right. If you don't trust your electronics you definitally won't have fun with this hobby. Nothing worse than spending all this time building a boat/plane and then have it go down because of faulty electronics and not dumb thumbs. I always tell my wife that I can handle the crashes that I have that are due to my own lack of skill but I just can't stand it when I'm fixing or replacing parts because of crappy electronics. If only the spectrum transmitter were nicer I would so have bought one of those.

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/13/2006 2:58 AM   
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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/18/2006 7:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Guys

We had a couple "low wind" days, so I flew the wings, I mean sponsons off my mho, and fff mho. I fly fff mho first, can"t get use to a boat flying. FFf makes a good back-up, and it"s better than nothing.

I hope M Connally would design a nitro mho. I really injoy flyiing mine.

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/25/2006 12:25 PM   
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Firstly thanks to RogerRamjet and Greg Covey for insights that have got me a long way towards getting my Walkera Boat airborne.
I'm pretty new to these great RC Hydro 's so it maybe my prob's an easy fix......

When I connect the fully charged LiPo battery ( transmitter is on with fresh batteries + full throttle) the ESC beeps continuously + all the servos go to max rudder and flaps. The transmitter and receiver are both labelled up the same (35.120 MHz - I'm in UK) but my guess is that the transmitter or receiver might be faulty. This is because the same beeping and servo movement happens when I connect the battery without the transmitter on. Any thoughts what it might be or will I have to try changing the transmitter?
I don't know if it's relevant or not but the small cartridge in the back of the transmitter which is labelled as 35.12 has a label inside of "type 35-2"

Cheers Martin

Just in case you start to find the Flying Boats a bit tame dream of an RC version of this.....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4832254.stm

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/25/2006 12:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		razzyb - I'm just wondering if your servos and esc are plugged into the right rcvr channels?

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/25/2006 1:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks. Yes they appear to be connected the right way. Throttle & Rudder in right positions on RX for sure. The ELEV & AILE on channels 1 and 2 are connected through the "beeper" (whatever the right name is) to the RX so couldn't check them directly but tried swapping those two around.

I'd also changed the ESC to motor wires over as RogerRamjet suggested and changed the DIP switches on the TX which Greg Covey referenced in his recommended mods: http://www.fmadirect.com/evaluations/cba_rtf_boat/cba_rtf_boat.htm

Grateful for any other thoughts!

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/25/2006 5:37 PM   
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That happened to me last night on a rudder servo.

I had it plugged 180 deg. wrong.


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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/25/2006 8:11 PM   
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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/25/2006 11:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Matt - OK. I tried changing over the wires on the Aileron and Elevator where it connects to the beeper thing which appeared to work 'cos they don't deflect now when I connect the battery. For the rudder the cables from the servo go direct into the receiver and that can't be reversed as there's a groove down one side of the connector that slots into the receiver. I also changed one of the other servos onto the Rudder channel (4) which then deflects when I power up and appears to cause the constant beeping.

Just to add to the joy when channel 4 servo is disconnected (Channels 1,2,3 connected) there's still the constant beeping.

Cheers RazzyB



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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/26/2006 6:42 PM   
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I can"t make any sense out of your post.

Maybe somebody else can.

How about it AFLITZ ? ?

SORRY

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/26/2006 7:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm at a complete loss as to what could be the cause of razzyb's problem.


Do you have another servo you could connect into channel 4 and see if it centers right? Other than replacing components one by one to troubleshoot i'm short of ideas. If you are new at this go hang out at your local hobby shop or take it to a flying club without a doubt someone there will be able to test components with you and figure out the problem. I don't know about other people out there, but i'll drop everything i'm doing in a heartbeat to help someone get their gear sorted, same for all my flight buddies. UK's a bit far a swim for me to assist you in person though. It sounds like you tried all you could without having other components to test them all, perhaps this is a warranty issue, a doa or dudd if you will. these things happen in a surprisingly high percentage of rc gear unfortunately.


Godspeed razzyb!

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/26/2006 7:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Matt, You probably can't understand because I don't know what I'm talking about!
Basically I presumed "plugged in 180 wrong" means that you need to flip around the 3 pin connectors. I could do that on the servos connected to channels 1 & 2 because they've got another component between the servo and the transmitter (which makes the constant beeping sound - on left in photo attached) that has bare pins. Turning those connectors around stopped the servos flicking across as soon as I connected the battery. I can't turn the connector around on the channel 4 (rudder) on the receiver because the connector will only go in 1 way.
Any other thoughts for what I can try?

Cheers Razzyb

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/26/2006 8:09 PM   
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You write as good as you fly.
Thankyou.

razz

Your rodip is unorthodox to the radio systems I know.
I fell the same as Aflipz. I would gladly drive a few hours to help.
Sorry

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/26/2006 9:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cheers mate! I think I'll take the advice and go to a local shop. I've been trying to hook up with a local club so will also give that a try. My after sales service will be non existant as I got this direct from Hongkong via ebay. Transatlantic travel has got a good bit cheaper, but not cheap enough!

Ta.

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/27/2006 12:14 AM   
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That bad radio just might be a blessing in disguise.
It may take you to a flying club and new friends.

GOOD LUCK

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/27/2006 12:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		looks like it's wired right to me from the picture i can clearly see all the signal, + and - wires are all alligned. that black thingy you have channel 1 and 2 plugged into is a mixer that allows for elevon operation.

what if you remove the mixer all together, plug all the servos directly in the rx just to see if the servos operate normally, do not attempt to operate the boat without a mixer though. If the servos work without the mixers all you need is a (cheap) replacement mixer or a (more expensive, but worth it) transmitter with mixing capability.

if you'd like i have a mixer here i bought in december and never had to use since i bought a computer transmitter, it's new in it's sealed bag and you can have it for the price of shipping. (if it turns out the mixer was to blame, if not don't waste your $$$)



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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/27/2006 7:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good thoughts.....It doesn't appear to be a faulty mixer, but it does appear to be whichever servo is connected to the 4th channel on the Rcvr. On channels 1&2 they don't move now when I connect the battery (the transmitter doesn't move them either!).

Anyway thanx for all your advice...I'll hunt out a local club - I've discovered there's even one on the route I take into work.

Cheers guys

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 3/28/2006 6:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		those wire color looks like jr and jr connector can plug in anyway not like futaba that allow only one way to plug in. probably something go ruined when it was plug in wrong

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RE: Hydro-Foam by Michael Connally - 4/10/2006 6:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Razz: sorry I haven't been paying attention recently to the posts here...ok...I've had a few of these Flyboats come back for the same problem. First of all, go back to the original dip switch settings on the back, and wiring that Greg showed for the receiver and that I had for the ESC. That is NOT your problem.

Your problem is one of two very simple things. If the boat just keeps beeping without syncing up with the Tx then it's indicating that it is not receiving a sync signal with the Tx. This is a safety feature to prevent "wild fly aways".

Either the crystals are bad or the Tx is defective (usually crystal connection socket issues). I've had to deal with both very recently. I would start with swapping out the crystals and putting in a new set.

If it's not the crystals, you will need to test the electronics with a higher quality 6 channel Tx. Your local HS should be able to help you. Also note that the top right front switch on the provided Tx is a throttle booster...not like the boat needs it but thought you'd like to know

Now another thing: I've been working on this and if you feel like you've got some modelling chops, you may want to try it: as we know, the torque that the oversized prop creates does a serious job of turning the boat left. To adjust for this, I put a washer in between the motor mount and the slot front-top-left, and filled in the gap it created back-top-right. I also added a little bit of clay under the motor mount in the front where it makes contact with the bottom to angle it a few degrees up.

To improve steering control you can also cut flaps out of the left and right tails, trim them and tape them back on with wing tape, then rig linkages from the middle rudder...just an aggressive idea if you want to make tighter turns.

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