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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/15/2010 4:27 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/15/2010 4:33 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/15/2010 3:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got to maiden my MKII yesterday. We only flew her twice as we were dodging the rain all day but after a little bit of right Aileron trim she flew perfect!

One of the instructors at the club flew first and loved it, then I flew a few circuits and really enjoyed it.

None of them had seen a PTS before and so i got all the expected comments of "nice plane but its not a trainer", then when they saw it fly they were all "it is a trainer... wow!"

The chairman of the club happened to be there yesterday and after seeing it there is now even talk of it being the recommended trainer for the club for all novices.  They were very impressed and so was I.

Can't wait to take her up again!

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/16/2010 12:07 AM   
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have you taken the pin out of the high needle screw yet? if not try that, everybody who has his motor (including myself) has had to do this and I've even heard of the motor being set too lean on the top end from the factory

Thanks for the replies guys. But to be clear here. The problem is not ajusting the needle valves. The problem is that the engine starts off rich and then leans out all on its own. Im geussing buddie has a bad egg. I think he's decided to return it and buy an OS.55 Thats what I had on mine a couple years ago and it really tore up the sky.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/16/2010 1:24 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/16/2010 1:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		shorten the klunk 1/4 inch and give it a nother try. nothing to loose but 1/4 inch of line.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/16/2010 2:46 AM   
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shorten the klunk 1/4 inch and give it a nother try. nothing to loose but 1/4 inch of line.

Thats a possibility. Perhaps the clunk is up against the back wall of the tank. Shortening up the clunk line would keep it off the wall.

Thanks Ill have him try it.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/16/2010 5:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		i had this issue with the dazzler i had sort of. shortening the klunk line made it act normal. but in the end it worked better
after the engine got 30 min or more of time also but the klunk made it act normal. for me one of the other issues was too
much prop. going from a 11x6 to 11x5 on the supertiger 45 made it act better. just trying to help. you are not done yet.keep messing with stuff.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/18/2010 2:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Help! lol

It seems that the seam on my fuel tank was never sealed properly and after running the plane a few more times it became apparent that it has been leaking fuel in to the front of the fusealage. So the entire frame from the servos back are soaked in glow fuel... Whats the best thing to do? Leave it? Will that have any long term affects? Soak it out somehow? Pretty impossible as its all in the front of the fusealage and cant really be got to. Complain to Horizon?  My receiver got a soaking also, though it still seems to function OK.  Anything to worry about?

Any advice would be appreciated.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/18/2010 3:03 AM   
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Help! lol

It seems that the seam on my fuel tank was never sealed properly and after running the plane a few more times it became apparent that it has been leaking fuel in to the front of the fusealage. So the entire frame from the servos back are soaked in glow fuel... Whats the best thing to do? Leave it? Will that have any long term affects? Soak it out somehow? Pretty impossible as its all in the front of the fusealage and cant really be got to. Complain to Horizon?  My receiver got a soaking also, though it still seems to function OK.  Anything to worry about?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Andy

Not to worry. If all your electronics are still funtioning at a safe distance, youll be fine. The balsa does a great job of obsorbing most of the fuel doesnt it. If you want to remove even more. Spinkle some Corn Starch around the infected area and leave it over night. Then clean it up with a vacume. This is a good way to prep a joint when you need to glue it and its be hit with fuel/oil.

2000redrocket acutally I am done with it I e-mailed my buddy and now its up to him. I think he took it back to the LHS and is haveing them deal with it.

Thanks for the help

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 2/18/2010 8:58 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info vettster. I actually called Horizon UK this morning before I had read your reply as I was concerned about the long term affects of the fuel on the receiver (it got really soaked) and I couldn't be more pleased with their response.  Essentially they said, pack the fuselage up with all the radio gear and engine still installed and send it back to them and they will aim to replace it all within 24 to 48hrs... Just another example of the amazing customer service Horizon offer their customers!  To be honest I didnt expect the same level of service over here in the UK as you guys get from Horizon over there as Horizon are just a distributor here, they dont really deal with the general public, just the LHS's. I was astounded at how helpful and understanding the guy was (John Norris, Hangar 9 Product Support) and to offer a replacement service on those timescales is just unheard of. I was expecting 1 to 2 weeks minimum.

I hope they are as good as their word and I see my replacement back early next week.  I was sold on Hangar 9 products after receiving this model and after reading other reports on their models on RCU, I think now I know what service I can expect from them, I really dont mind paying that bit extra for their models and will likely never buy anything else.  Call me a Hangar 9 fanboi if you want

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/3/2010 6:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello all!  Amazing amount of info on this site i must say.  I have always wanted to get into rc flying and today purchased my first plane.  I went with the Mustang PTS as it seems the best option as far as beginners transitioning into "sport" flying.  As my user name suggests i am in the Air Force and planes are not new to me.  I am a aircraft electrican by trade and have been in the Air Force for almost 18 years.  Currently stationed at Little Rock AFB in AR.  I cant wait to get my plane together and get it in the air.  I am currently trying to find flying clubs in my area that allow beginners and have instructors to get me off the ground right.  I am also looking at buying the new Phoenix flight sim to get some stick time as well.  I have always been a fan of the mustang (car and plane) and was overwhelmed when i saw there was a trainer that transitioned as the operators need grew, I jumped!  Look foward to conversing with all the knowledgable people on here and get into the air!!

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/3/2010 7:05 AM   
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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/3/2010 12:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The fly wheel on the PTS engine... When moving up to a proper prop, can the flywheel be removed? Does it need to be replaced with anything else?

Speaking of props, I know it was discussed earlier in the thread but its been a while since I read it now, I recall 11x5 being a suitable 2 blade, how about 3 blade for this engine?

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/3/2010 3:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes you can remove the flywheel, the outer ring or the bleck part is pressed on hen that wll leave you with just the washer, once you get he ring off you'll see, I run an 11x7 2 blade and have a 10x6 3 blade but haven't tried it yet

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/4/2010 2:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I run a 10X7 -3blade on both of my mustangs - gives you almost the same performance as a 2 blade and (in my humble opinion) it looks better . Also the flywheel can be replaced by a lighter weight magnesium one if you choose - if you want the part number I can get it for you I replaced both of my stock flywheels - just make the plane a little lighter I didn't notice any real difference in speed ....


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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/4/2010 5:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Question about the Mk II i bought.  I was doing the limited assymbly on it today and already have a problem.  I was putting the landing gear on and they dont seem to want to go all the way into the wing.  One of them is almost flush but the other one sticks out more than i like.  I tried carefully to push them in as far as i could but just cant seem to get it to go flush with the wing.  I dont want to tighen down the screws and strip out the holes in the wing but i dont want to have landing gear issues upon landing either.  Has anyone else run into this issue?

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/4/2010 12:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi USAF, yes, I had the same issue.

Basically I just took a drill bit the same size as the landing gear wire and carefully wound it in the hole a couple of times. You dont have to remove much wood and be careful not to drill the hole any deeper. If you have the same issue as me it was one of tightness rather than not enough depth.

I then put a small amount of light machine oil on the landing gear and  got it in as far as i could. Then when I tightened the saddle clamps down it pulled them flush in to the wing.

Just an FYI whilst talking about landing gear. Now that the mkII is available as an ARTF with optional retracts, Horizon are selling the spare parts for it. It comes with some fairly nice landing gear door/fairings that you can order as a seperate part. You cant seem them on the picture below but for a couple of bucks it doesnt half make a difference to the look of this plane.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/4/2010 2:59 PM   
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I run a 10X7 -3blade on both of my mustangs - gives you almost the same performance as a 2 blade and (in my humble opinion) it looks better . Also the flywheel can be replaced by a lighter weight magnesium one if you choose - if you want the part number I can get it for you I replaced both of my stock flywheels - just make the plane a little lighter I didn't notice any real difference in speed ....


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Thanks Tom

Am I right in thinking the stock prop on these planes is a 10x4? Sorry, cant check myself as I'm at work.

Also, does anyone know what the stock diameter the landing gear wires are? I want to order some Robart Strut Covers but not sure which ones I need. Can't check until I get home this evening and even so, I don't have an Imperial Ruler to measure with lol.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/4/2010 8:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, the flywheel can be removed, as the other guys mentioned, and replaced with this prop driver.

I also had the same trouble with the MkII landing gear holes being too tight and my solution was the same as Andy's to use a drill bit by hand to smooth out the holes. It's better for them to be a little too tight than to be too loose.

B1ue52, the stock prop is listed as a 10.5x4 and the landing gear wire is 5mm by my measurements. Is that really a "1" between the "B" and "u" in your screen name and if so, why? I have to know if there's some significance to it.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/5/2010 1:14 AM   
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Hi USAF, yes, I had the same issue.

Basically I just took a drill bit the same size as the landing gear wire and carefully wound it in the hole a couple of times. You dont have to remove much wood and be careful not to drill the hole any deeper. If you have the same issue as me it was one of tightness rather than not enough depth.

I then put a small amount of light machine oil on the landing gear and  got it in as far as i could. Then when I tightened the saddle clamps down it pulled them flush in to the wing.

Just an FYI whilst talking about landing gear. Now that the mkII is available as an ARTF with optional retracts, Horizon are selling the spare parts for it. It comes with some fairly nice landing gear door/fairings that you can order as a seperate part. You cant seem them on the picture below but for a couple of bucks it doesnt half make a difference to the look of this plane.

Hope that helps.

Andy

Thanks for the reply and info.  I thought about using a drill bit to help me get the landing gear in there but just didnt want to end up doing something wrong.  I'll give it a shot tomorrow hopefully and see if i can get the rest of it assembled.  I like the idea of putting something on the landing gear to dress them up even though i dont have retractable gear though.  I'll have to look up what i'll need to see if i can attach some door's to the gear to make it look better.





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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/5/2010 8:00 PM   
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Yeah, the flywheel can be removed, as the other guys mentioned, and replaced with this prop driver.

I also had the same trouble with the MkII landing gear holes being too tight and my solution was the same as Andy's to use a drill bit by hand to smooth out the holes. It's better for them to be a little too tight than to be too loose.

B1ue52, the stock prop is listed as a 10.5x4 and the landing gear wire is 5mm by my measurements. Is that really a "1" between the "B" and "u" in your screen name and if so, why? I have to know if there's some significance to it.


Thanks for the info Stew

There is no real significance to the "1" I'm afraid... very dull. I used to play a lot of PS2 and PS3 games online back in the day. Blue52 was my online game name for years... on one game it was already taken so I changed it to a "1"... nothing exciting lol. B1ue52 has been my online name for as long as I can remember now, gaming and otherwise. It's not even a football play reference either (which is what most people assume it is) lol

I'm in the middle of pimping my P-51 out a little bit just for kicks. Sullivan aliminium (aluminum to you guys) P-51 style wheels, Robart Strut covers, aluminium spinner, painted and detailed exhaust stacks. Then I'll get to stripping it down and glassing the airframe and covering it in individual aluminium panels with flush rivets and a bit of paint and maybe some weathering.  Also some retracts at some point.

Should be fun.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/6/2010 9:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well I maidened my Mustang MK II today (all training gear removed, functioning flaps, GMS .47 w/ 11x6/10x7, etc) and had a blast!!! Loved the plane. I setup CROW on my DX6i and was doing literally walking speed passes over the runway. I honestly can't believe how well the functioning flaps work on this plane. I deployed them for each landing and it would slow the plane to crawl, yet required absolutely 0 elevator input correction. Flares were perfect.

Great plane! GMS .47 is still not running right for me, despite all my sleeve/timing modifications, fully sealing, etc. I'm going to play with it a bit more then break-in and run my ASP .52 on it. That 10x7 on the GMS was already turning 15,600 on 5%.

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/6/2010 1:51 PM   
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I don't think we'll be flyin around here til hmmmmmmm late april early May . Long winters suck LOL

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RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 3/7/2010 8:26 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		B1ue52, what you just shared about the origin of your name is the epitome of captivating significance! OK, maybe that's a slight over-statement, but I found it to be interesting enough. However, your plans for your MkII sound mighty interesting. You'll have to make sure and post pics after each mod to chronicle the transformation. I managed to find a strip of field where the snow had melted so I flew my electrified MkII a couple times today. She looked beautiful and it felt good to finally take to the skies after a tough winter break. These were the first flights with my aluminum spinner from Hobby King. I've got to say the quality of that thing far surpassed my expectations. I think it's actually chrome-plated!

Egan, it's great to hear your positve flight report. I'm always so impressed with how much lift and stability those flaps add to this thing. I have a smaller Hyperion Mustang (w/o flaps) that I haven't flown in a while simply because the speed at which it must be landed frightens me so much. But I ALWAYS feel completely comfortable with taking the PTS for a spin. I like your sig, by the way, although He's my pilot and I'm more like a back seat driver .

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