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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 m... - 7/20/2008 3:09:10 AM   
    HUNTERANDJEFF


     

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    Status: offline     		You might be able to pull off taking off from the pool but I don't know about landing though......... Maybe powered in the short grass?????
    Ideas, Ideas, Ideas, HHMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 m... - 7/20/2008 3:46:45 AM   
    akz28



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    quote:

    There is not currently a version of it for G4



    Steve,

    But the G3.5 models for the most part work fine in G4. I have all of the variations of the PTS Mustangs that I am using in G4. Give it a try.

    Just go here: http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/downloads.php

    And in the bottom left corner type in "PTS" as a search term. There are four different ones to choose from.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/20/2008 4:15:44 AM   
    smooreace


     

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    Status: offline     		I had a lot of trouble with the 3.5 based PTS models. The controls seemed to be far to sensitive, and power management was almost non existant... like idle to full throttle... AND FULL SPEED.. in 2 feet with 5 clicks. was VERY unhappy with it, but dont know how to fix, so I gave up and went back to 3.5 to fly

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/20/2008 5:34:16 AM   
    RU4JESUS2 FALCONGTS


     

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    Status: offline     		GOT 8 night flights in it was awesome to say the least had 12 night time pilots up little close but wow what a rush club members said I cant believe you did that to your mustang
    LOOKs great ,and i really like it what club members said Had a blast 70F instead of 95F little to know wind

    fellow club member said
    AMA said you cannot have a low wing night flyer? is this true ? im flying the same speed as the others flys far better than the nextstar for night
    and its a trainer at that this plane is a solid ,stable ,night flyer,and looks good to boot
    if this is the case what do i do?
    thanks falcon

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/20/2008 12:03:05 PM   
    smooreace


     

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    Status: offline     		Welcome to politics, and big brothers control. AMA has its good points, but its not much more user friendly than the FAA for real pilots

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/20/2008 12:34:14 PM   
    akz28



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    quote:

    I had a lot of trouble with the 3.5 based PTS models. The controls seemed to be far to sensitive, and power management was almost non existant... like idle to full throttle... AND FULL SPEED.. in 2 feet with 5 clicks. was VERY unhappy with it, but dont know how to fix, so I gave up and went back to 3.5 to fly


    So there is a difference in behaviour with the planes that are at a different version than the program you are using. I wasnt sure. If you've tried the PTS at both G3.5 and G4 and they behave differently, well then that clears that up for me. I am actually relieved to know that the PTS flys nothing like the real thing in G4 with the G3.5 model.

    Thanks for the info..............Al

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/20/2008 1:07:33 PM   
    smooreace


     

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    Status: offline     		Ive flown everything in G4, but its been a few months. I cant think og anything that really compares to the PTS. Ill jump into it sometonight if I can, and see what I can find.

    Some estimated numbers for you to ponder...
    2.5 ingrass takeoff/no flaps/full throttle.. about 30' to a near vertical climb to estimated 120' with no wind.
    Dive full throttle w/5 mph wind OS46 11x7 prop.. 85-90 full elevator for inverted-level exit in about 15' diameter.
    I would estimate with my flap settings that my slowest touchdown speed is near 10-15 mph.

    My throughs are exagerated to the max the airframe will physically allow, and I have no training gear installed, so obviously its a little more responsive, but with 40% expo on low rates, she settles in smooth as silk. High rates are set to 75%

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/20/2008 3:52:47 PM   
    mydartswinger



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    Status: offline     		According to the 2008 AMA Member Manual (found here), on page 3 (National Model Aircraft Safety Code), under Radio Conrol, bullet #9: Radio-controlled night flying is limited to low-performance model aircraft (less than 100 mph). The model aircraft must be equipped with a lighting system which clearly defines the aircraft's attitude and direction at all times.

    Unless there are more rules that are buried somewhere, I know of nothing that limits the design of the aircraft to high wing. Also, reference Fly RC magazine's June 2008 issue on page 52. There is an article on hooking up LEDs for night flying. The airplane being used for the project is a Multiplex Acromaster kit, which is clearly not a trainer type airplane, but a low/mid wing "pattern" shaped airplane.

    If the safety code is the only set of rules for flying (according to AMA), then as long as the plane flies less than 100mph regardless of design, you should be good by AMA rules. Your club may have implemented an additional restriction. If that was the case, the person that brought it to your attention should have said it was a club rule, not an AMA rule.

    Maybe someone reading this can point you where to look for more detailed rules.

    Hope this helps

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/20/2008 6:00:43 PM   
    RU4JESUS2 FALCONGTS


     

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    Status: offline     		thanks very much for that info clears things up should not be a problem for the night pony
    the club member is a friend and i did not want to do anything wrong he was not sure ,there is a U can do 3D and 60 size ugly stick that are different rest are of the trainer sort
    had one mid air last night no damage they just bumped each other and 3 went into the corn also no damage club members and spectators were wowed by the mustang was able to hot dog also with it. 26 led in all I miss my strobe lights mabe later add on

    was a camp and fly event lots of fun the dawn patrol was alittle hard to do little sleep

    thanks again falcon

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/21/2008 4:43:15 AM   
    jeepnmike


     

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    Status: offline     		Hey guys I've been lurking around here for a while now and this thread has helped me tremendously. I bought a P51 pts a few weeks ago after flying my Super Cub for a couple months. I assembled it and began looking for an instructor in my area. After finding one, we exchanged e-mails for a while, but nothing ever came of it. The club seems to be pretty dysfunctional and I realized I probably wouldn't be getting any instruction any time soon. SO a couple days ago I decided to maiden and solo at the same time ( I live on A LOT of land). I felt pretty confident in my flying skills after the SC and countless hours on a sim. Anyways, it went GREAT. I got a flew flights in that day, and a lot more today. The landings have been smooth and I've had no close calls. This thing flies beautifully...I'm impressed! What a great plane.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/21/2008 4:56:03 AM   
    smooreace


     

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    Status: offline     		Ive seen you in the shadows.... wondered if you were ever going to say hi. Sorry to hear about your problems with finding an instructor. But it sounds like youve got a good foundation. Im assuming that you have all of the training gear installed.. good place to start for a guy with no outside support. I screwed up and was over confident, but in the same boat... and it cost me a LOT.

    Keep up the good work, and watch out for animated trees... thier in season ya know!!

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 ... - 7/21/2008 10:51:24 PM   
    RU4JESUS2 FALCONGTS


     

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    Status: offline     		jeepnmike thats great glad everything went well for you
    where at in va was you going to fly
    im in maryland

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