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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/26/2005 5:49:16 AM   
    silverdelt



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    Here's a review I found on HobbyMerchandiser:

    http://www.hobbymerchandiser.com/pdfs/July05_FlightReport.pdf

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/26/2005 7:17:48 PM   
    WhtBronco



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    Status: offline     		Wow that review from Hobby Merchandiser makes the P-51 PTS sound better than any trainer I have ever flown.

    I sure wish it was gonna be out sooner. My daughters birthday is in September and the only thing she wants is a 4 channel trainer to replace her Aerobird Challenger. She has gotten bored with the Challenger. She loves the look of this P-51 and so do I. With the projected release date of late August I decided I couldn’t wait, since more than likely it will get pushed out a bit. I ended up already buying a semi-symmetrical high wing plane, JR662 and an OS 46AX for her since the LHS gave me a really good deal on the stuff.

    Tail draggers are easier IMO as well. Tricycle gear high wings seem to tip over far to easily.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/26/2005 9:21:28 PM   
    txaggie08



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    Status: offline     		i just dont think its as good as they claim it is......he makes it sound like its the absolute easiest flying plane in the world. it might fly realy well, and it might be easy enough to fly as a trainer, but i just dunno.

    Ill give you a quoted argument against the plane(this from my instructor of about15 yrs experience, and a man whos been flying since the first radio systems came out and before(with control line)) IF its a flatbottom wing, its goingto be harder to land and take off since its A. a taildragger and B. a low wing. the way a flatbottom wing produces lift, having it sitting at an angleis going to force the nose to want to pop off the ground fast and not let the tail come up properly(ive seen it happen with a high wing plane so i know what hes talking about.). If they designed it with a mostly symetrical airfoil, its going to make it harder for the folks who have trouble catching on to correcting themselves out of a bank(wich took me a bi to get used to the degree with my hobbistar, and its only a semi symetrical), and make it harder in general to fly

    MAYBE if the released it as airframe only, illd be willing to get one and give it to the club(or loan) so i could get my instructors flying it and see what it was like, but its ridiculous they wont sel it as an ARF, only the RTF.

    I think it will be a novell idea, and it MIGHT work,i dunno. I have a feeling its not going to be nearly as smooth as the review described when it gets in the hands of a novice pilot

    anyway that my 2 pennies on the subject. im gonna go put my plane together so i can go to the field. HOPEFULY i will get to land tonight .....

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/26/2005 11:49:11 PM   
    ICE_MAN



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    Status: offline     		It may be OK... I have my doubts... But I can tell you it's not going to be like that review says IMHO... H9 will sell a bunch... And that's probably all they care about.. But I doubt this will make as good of a trainer as PROVEN equipment, Like the Superstars and Avistars.. Lt 40's and even Nexstars.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/27/2005 2:47:53 AM   
    isaacsgs


     

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    Status: offline     		I think we need to wait and see when someone new to flying gets one.

    It is thinking like the last few post that was told to Columbus, the Wright Brothers, Neil Armstrong, the designers of stealth, etc. Just because something has not worked in the past doesn't mean that it won't work in the future.

    Just my 2cents.

    Greg

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/27/2005 3:13:37 AM   
    txaggie08



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    Status: offline     		problem is, its not realy all that pioneering, its been tried before and didnt work fo the most part....

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/27/2005 1:33:03 PM   
    isaacsgs


     

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    Status: offline     		but I bet most of the ones I mentioned didn't succeed on the very first try. Almost all R&D is more Trial and Error. I know this because I am a mechanical engineer by trade, and I work in R&D. We are always trying something even though most people say it shouldn't work. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't.

    I personally have my hopes up, but we will see when it is released.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/31/2005 4:23:58 AM   
    kevhunt


     

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    Status: offline     		This will be the first plane I own. I'm almost as green as they come, and am very excited to see something like this for a beginner. Time will tell whether or not it works for newbees.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/31/2005 4:48:28 AM   
    Rare Bear Mech



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    Status: offline     		I agree. I remember when first getting into R/C, and all that I wanted was to get good enough to fly a warbird. Heck now you can make it the first plane... You know something cool that isn't an airfoiled box
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    ORIGINAL: Steve Campbell

    Ya gotta admit; its a pretty clever idea.




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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/31/2005 5:55:26 AM   
    txaggie08



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    Status: offline     		i will welcome it with open arms if it A. works as proposed, and B. comes out in an arf airframe instead of the arf pack with the evo and jr radio.....might even buy one ten

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/31/2005 10:01:32 PM   
    Steve Campbell


     

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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: ICE_MAN

    ... But I can tell you it's not going to be like that review says IMHO... as good of a trainer as PROVEN equipment, Like the Superstars and Avistars..



    How can you tell us that? The only people who have seen it are giving it high praise. Is it justified? Who knows? We certainly don't.

    And, unless I'm mistaken, the AviStar has a semi-symmetrical wing. Flies great; but doesn't slow down nearly as well (or as much) as a flat-bottom wing. IOW, the AviStar is not an ideal primary trainer.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/31/2005 10:04:03 PM   
    tailskid



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    Status: offline     		Steve said: "the AviStar is not an ideal primary trainer"

    I would agree with you but we have two instructors here that will ONLY train on an AviStar! I've yet to fly one.....but they sure look like they are moving too fast for a rank beginner, but a ball of fun with an experienced pilot!

    Jerry

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 7/31/2005 10:32:23 PM   
    txaggie08



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    Status: offline     		dont know about the avistar, but i'm flying the hobbistar(same airfoil), not only that,but its running a .46 ttpro, not the sixty it recommends. I can tell you it will slown down on landing slown enough i can almost catch it(havent tried!!) before it stalls. i would think it would make a very good trainer(teaching me well enough!!)

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