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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/9/2005 5:48:57 PM   
    txaggie08



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    Status: offline     		see my objection to having only an rtf package is, i have 250$ sunk in a computer radio, and have no desire to buy another one, especialy since its a negative shift radio(i beleive i have this right), and i use positive shift(Futaba) radio equipment. I also already have a spare motor laying around, so the motor is more i would have to spend. Its not necessarily a BAD thing to sell any trainer as RTF, but to sell it as only RTF is costing them sales, and is blatent fanboying for jr and evo motors.....

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/9/2005 6:02:15 PM   
    olstoney



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    Status: offline     		I'm fixing mine, HD Charge switch, Hitec dual conversion receiver, so I can use my Eclipse 7 transmitter and if my NIB OS 46FX will bolt right in watch out . Now the question becomes what will someone reasonably pay for a NIB 5 channel JR computer radio with receiver and a 3 year warranty and/or the new unrun Evo motor Most beginners will buy a Futaba four channel with only a 1 year warranty and something like a Tower or Supertigre 40 because they think it's cheaper. In all reality they will wind up paying about twice more than what I would want for this stuff.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/9/2005 8:21:17 PM   
    Flyboy76



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    Status: offline     		just my two cents but i really like my evo motors. they run great and i barely ever have to touch it for tuning which would explain why i suck at tuning engines. But at this point in time i only have a limited amount of time for flying so i like to get right to it. I have an O.S. LA .46 and and evo .40 and an evo .61 and i like the evo's just as much as the OS. I'm sure that if you don't want the engine that comes with the plane somebody will gladly take it off your hands. As far as the radio ya that is a bit of a pain but i'm sure they will be offering it in an ARF form pretty soon.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/9/2005 8:24:06 PM   
    Flyboy76



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    Status: offline     		if you are looking for a reasonably priced p-51 arf for the engine you have lying around try the seagull p-51 it is a nice plane that flies really well. i know i'll get flamed for this but i moved right to it from my h-9 arrow trainer and have not had any mishaps. The landings are quite a bit quicker but other than that it has good flight characteristics.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/10/2005 3:44:23 AM   
    mtcarey


     

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    Status: offline     		I flew this plane today for a new guy at our Field. I have been flying for 42 years. Training on several planes with newbies over the past ten years. This is not at all a good first plane. Save it for after you learn to take off and land a standard trainer like a Sig LT 40

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/11/2005 8:19:36 PM   
    Rotor



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    ORIGINAL: T. Bob

    I trained a guy on one this last Saturday. It was a perfect day with little wind and 85 degrees. And I can say the plane flew terribly. It's way under powered. The flaps make it terribly sensitive to pitch and throw those 3 blade props away. If I had to teach someone on that plane I would take off everything and put them on a box until they got the hang of it. I am a H9 fan and have owned may of their planes but obviously they went with looks instead of performance. I few a Goldberg Tiger II the same day for another guy and its was by far a better plane for a beginner, but it wasn't a war bird. If any of you guys hear a new person talking about buying this plane please talk them out of it.


    I disagree. I finally ran a gallon thru it this past week and flew it in all configurations()...(Droops on, Brakes on, Flaps @ 22 degrees), then (took Brakes off), (then flaps up), (then droops off in full clean config).

    After extensive testing, in temps ranging from 78 to 90 degrees, I found nothing wrong with this aircraft...even after buying a NexStar for my father-in-law last year, I found this ship to be just as competent and "pleasant", furthermore, a different NexStar had difficulty taking off in half grown grass last week with its 1 3/4" wheels, I found no problem on rollout or with roll-on performance with the 2 1/2" wheels. I still highly recommend this to anyone trying to get themselves or someone else into the hobby.


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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/11/2005 9:50:22 PM   
    olstoney



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    Status: offline     		I told you guys that I would be changing a few things. How do you think this one is gonna fly ? The 46 FX slipped right in and the radio gear was an easy swap. I also took the aileron Y harness out and will run separate channels to the servos. I have to run to the LHS tomorrow and get a two blade spinner, APC prop and another servo to hook up the flaps. Should be done by Wednesday, there is alot of CA residue from China to clean up yet.

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/11/2005 10:52:07 PM   
    pressurerat


     

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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: olstoney

    I told you guys that I would be changing a few things. How do you think this one is gonna fly ? The 46 FX slipped right in and the radio gear was an easy swap. I also took the aileron Y harness out and will run separate channels to the servos. I have to run to the LHS tomorrow and get a two blade spinner, APC prop and another servo to hook up the flaps. Should be done by Wednesday, there is alot of CA residue from China to clean up yet.





    I love it when folks do these sorts of mods. Did you ever try the Evo engine with an apc 2 blader? I am curious to see your progress on this one....it's everything I would do. What RX/TX did you switch to? Did you keep the JR servos in there? Good luck stoney and keep the new info as regular as possible!

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/11/2005 11:48:55 PM   
    olstoney



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    Status: offline     		Nope,
    Never fired the EVO just yanked it out, also the JR receiver and the 5 JR servos. Installed a Hitec QPCM receiver as I have a couple extras and 5 Hitec HS425BB servos. I will be using my Eclipse 7 transmitter. The O.S. FX seems lighter than the EVO, although without a scale can not be accurate with that assumption. There is alot of extra weight with that "flywheel" on the front of the EVO. Hopefully I can sell the JR computer radio, receiver and five servos as a new package. Same thing with the EVO, prop and spinner and recoup some of the investment. There is nothing wrong with the supplied equipment, I just prefer the Hitec stuff and with five planes now have plenty of it!! Bought this plane just to fill a gap while waiting until the end of October for a replacement on a YS 140FZ for my 25% Edge under the warranty and still have a 28% Precision Aerobatics Edge in a box that I haven't started yet. I'm waiting until after Hurricane season is over for that bad boy .

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/12/2005 12:20:49 AM   
    SeattleFlyer



    Posts: 51
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    From: Seattle, WA, USA
    Status: offline     		I have this plane on order as my FIRST TRAINER and should get it in a couple of days. I'm new to planes but I've raced R/C on-road gas cars for a few years now so I'm familiar with nitro engines, radios, etc. and I have a lot of respect for the kind of power and dangerous situations these things can deliver. It sounds like most people here so far feel this plane is indeed a good trainer and I'm looking forward to learning how to fly it under the close supervision of an instructor (yes, I'm joining the local flying club and the AMA, so I'll be in good hands). It should be a blast and I'm really excited to start with something a lot more interesting than your typical "box-with-wings" trainer.

    Nobody has talked about the simulation software that comes with the package so it would be nice to get some info on it. I'm planning on spending a good deal of time practicing with it as I feel like this will really be helpful before trying to fly the real plane with an instructor. Is the software any good? Does it have the H9 P-51 PTS as one of the simulated models? How does it compare to say the "RealFlight" software?

    Thanks!

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    RE: New Hanger 9 p-51 mustang **Trainer?!?** - 9/12/2005 3:03:27 AM