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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/7/2005 3:25:51 PM

SonicFury

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Very helpful... I do have the clear electronics casings but no addition around page 20. Guess I'll have to be looking into that mod for the 2bb grips!! Thanks again.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/7/2005 4:43:33 PM

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...i just had a radio glitch from hell....i may have gotten inbetween the heli and radio, i fired up the radio ,set it down, plugged in the heli battery and as i was turning around to pick up the radio the heli fired up and went to the ceiling of my shopand was pinned to the ceiling for about 5 seconds, then as i was holding the radio trying to figure out what happened it turned over and you guessed it ...it found the floor...

If you want my opinion, this is a serious design flaw. Its very dangerous to have this thing take off, out of control, just because it looses sync with the Tx. I would rather it shut the motor off and fall out of the sky than to have the thing go full throttle.

Has anyone contacted E-Flight about this?

They promote this thing for indoor use, but I will never fly this thin indoors again. At least in my living room. It will be flown indoors only in the garage or outside.

-Pilot

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/10/2005 3:13:40 AM

medivh

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my blade cp did this once..... The reason was i turned of the radio before i unplugged the heli

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/10/2005 5:02:54 AM

bdavison

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Ok guys, the final section of the assembly.....THREE CHEERS...ok maybe not....

Extreme and Performance modifications

Since some of the upgrade parts aren't out yet, Ill just start with what is available.
By now most of you have already upgraded to the "aerobatic enhancement kit" and a few of you have upgraded to the Carbon Fiber blades. Well...E-flite has released carbon fiber tail blades too.

The Carbon fiber tail blades are SUPER lightweight. This is a good thing. The lighter the tailfeathers weigh, the easier it is for the tail motor to spin. This results in faster more precise tail movements. The gyro works better, and rudder inputs are faster now. The carbon fiber tail rotor does have a few issues though. The hole drilled through the center that fits over the shaft is too small. This requires that you carefully re-drill the hole so that it will fit properly. The other thing (although superficial) is that only one side of the tail rotor is finished in a nice glossy carbon fiber finish, and the other side looks like they sandpapered the surface. All in all its a good addition.

The other upgrade recently released is the Aluminum Swashplate. Now this little jewel is pretty cool. Just go back to the section on building the head, and simply swap the swashplate out. Its a easy swap. Plug and Play of the helicopter world. The aluminum swashplate is very smooth, and has no slop in its bearings, which makes the heli even more responsive and the head spins smoothly. Aside from its asthetic looks, it does have its benefits. The ball links wont break off, and once the bell/hiller head comes out, its going to provide a good solid base for the new head.

Here are pics of both the carbon fiber tail blade and the swashplate. Notice the large ball bearing visable from the underside of the swashplate.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/10/2005 5:27:27 AM

bdavison

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Here is a pic of the swashplate installed, and of the carbon fiber tail rotor installed

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/10/2005 5:39:02 AM

SonicFury

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You have any custom modifications to increase performance by chance? Am I asking too soon?

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/10/2005 6:03:43 AM

bdavison

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They are coming. Im still waiting on the Bell/Hiller head, thats gonna be the biggest improvement. It turns the heli into a whole other machine.

Ive also got some other things up my sleeve. Ill be posting them soon. Im going to bed for now though.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/12/2005 4:21:58 AM

Wayno

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Could you tell us a little more about the Bell/Hiller head and what makes it so much better than the stock head? Does the Honeybee Bell/Hiller head fit the Blade without any modifications?

Thanks for the awesome thread!

-Wayno-san

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/12/2005 5:16:10 PM

bdavison

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Well, Bill Altman has replaced the stock Blade head on his heli with the E-sky Bell/Hiller head. I have flown it. Its a whole other helicopter.

I would say it flys more like a T-rex now. Its really stable, but when you move the sticks...it goes. The 3D type manuevers are going to be much easier with the new head. If you shove cyclic in it, its going inverted and RIGHT then....no more waiting on it to move. Hovering is easier with the new head. The stock blade head is sluggish. Its ok for relatively new pilots, but once you get good at hovering and forward flight, the stock head is sloooooow. The bell/hiller head makes hovering easier because when you input commands, it does it immediatly, no hesitation.

You know how when you are in forward flight, and you turn a corner, you dont want to over bank the heli with the stock head, because it takes a while for it to roll out of the bank on exit, and its easy to overcontrol it and get out of control....well the new head...go ahead and bank it. Yank that sucker up on knife-edge, and pull as hard as you can. When you go to level it out, its got plenty of agility left to do it.

For those of you learning on the Blade CP, I cant tell if it would be better for you or not. My gut says "Yes". Unfortunatly I cant go back to being a beginner to see. It would seem to me like the faster response would make it easier, because it would help to eliminate overcontrolling the heli.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/12/2005 6:39:35 PM

SonicFury

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Wow you just sold me I have to get it. This would be the thing right?
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH1170

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/12/2005 6:44:25 PM

ptgarcia

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ORIGINAL: bdavison

For those of you learning on the Blade CP, I cant tell if it would be better for you or not. My gut says "Yes". Unfortunatly I cant go back to being a beginner to see. It would seem to me like the faster response would make it easier, because it would help to eliminate overcontrolling the heli.

I think it would be easier. Even though I have had my Blade since the middle of November I have only run 4 "charges" through it, so I'm truely still a beginner. I've been running the TP 1320mAh lipo since charge #3, but I've been using the stock motor and flat bottom blades. I did add the heatsinks to the motors but I haven't installed the aerobatic enhancement kit motor yet since I haven't been using much throttle. Anyway, for #4 charge I moved the weights on the flybar all the way in and installed the symmetrical blades from the aerobatic enhancement kit. And boy what a difference! It was so much easier to keep a somewhat stable hover. It was much more responsive and I didn't over-correct when things started going awry. I have my Bell/Hiller upgrade on order, and as soon as it comes in I'll be slapping it on. And I'll be exchanging all my flat bottom blades for the symmetrical ones. I may even try a set of those carbon fiber blades!

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/12/2005 6:51:20 PM

kookboy

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Have you guys thought of getting this ?

http://www.rc-expert.com/product-upgrade.php?pid=80#o-alu-esky-rotorhead

It will fit on the stock BCP setup.

For $110 it seems like a great deal. By time you subract the $35 price for the CNC swash and the Bell hiller upgrade at $25, this isn't unreasonable for a full metal head, $55 buck over the price of just a swash and hiller mix! This is looking pretty attractive.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/12/2005 7:10:50 PM

kookboy

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I went for it.
When I get it, I'll take some pics both by itself and installed.

I've spent almost that much just in plastic parts breaking!

IMO I think that the full metal head for 110 bucks with the bell hiller upgrade is a great investment if you are keeping your BCP (which I am).

Hopefully I get it soon

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/12/2005 7:20:44 PM