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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 1:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I flew through a couple of batteries in the front yard tonight by the light of the christmas lights. I have a set of gloves with the thumbs cut out for winter flying. I have noticed my head speed is lower in the cold (even with the NiMh batteries). I wonder how the LiPo batteries do in the cold (I think I have a couple under the tree). Nose in is still challenging for me. I have held it for a minute or two, but I still lose it after a while. I was flying circles tonight, snow is great for bad landings.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 3:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		The LiPos are a LOT worse then the NiMH in the cold... you'll have to insulate them if they're not already. You DO NOT want to freeze them or they will lose capacity permanently.

yeah, snow is nice to crash in but it's kind of a pita to keep having to blow it out if you fly like I do.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 4:46 AM   
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There's quite a bit of info on the E-blade thread

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3038269/tm.htm

I don't know what page it's on, but it's all a good read. Somewhere in there are the specifics on how to hook an external esc in including pretty good detail on setting up brushless.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 4:52 AM   
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It seems I remember something called snow. It's that white crap you loved as a kid and hate to drive in, rusts out your car and makes you wish you had an indoor job. Why do you think I moved to Georgia? 300 days of flight time. Notice I said 300, it's hard to fly in hurricane season. Trade offs.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 5:30 AM   
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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 9:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Unfortunately here in Chicago it's been -1 degrees for the last freaking week and a half. It's even too cold for the gloves with no fingers. So, I'm stuck flying in my living room.

Quick question... I have mastered 'nose out' hovering. I can hover as long as I want. But, even when I try to turn the thing sidways, Wham Bam Crash you Mam!!!. Other than buying a stupid (way over-priced) simulator, is there any other secret to flying in 'other than nose out' orientation. Or, is it that I'm just not coordinated enough at this point.

I tried to put the training wheels back on and keep it low. Still… WOOOHA!!!

Turn the nose forward… no problem.


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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 9:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		It just takes a lot of practice. If you have already moved into forward flight sometimes it's easier to bring the heli around while it's flying in front of you for the first time. Doing slow controlled piroettes is quite difficult and you will ditch the heli quite a few times trying to get it down. Take your time and go slow. It's just one of those things that will just click when it's ready Kinda like when learning to tail in hover. Heli flings all over the place and then that one time it just pops up and your golden from there.

Good luck.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 10:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi all, I am new to this thread, and need to vent my frustration on the remote control glitch. I have experienced the problem three or four times each of varying degree. Usually when my blade cp is completely operational after spooling down with throttle down as well as trim all the way down the bird sits steady with no problems, however a couple of times it just unexpectedly pops into full throttle and jumps into a wall! I cant take it! One set of blades were completely ruined and I am afraid of even turning this thing on indoors.

I have also notice a strange thing. When the cp is susceptible to the random glitch from hell it’s often related to cell phones being near by. Even stranger than the cell phone interference is that a couple of times I had the heli sitting ready to fly, and when I tip the TX forward so the antenna is parallel to the ground the thing goes nuts, but when I return it vertically it behaves. I did this a couple of times and was shocked to see that the heli would hop each time I would lower my TX. WHAT IS GOING ON! Anyone know?


I am running the RTF blade with all stock parts on channel 17 which is 72.130 mhz!

What frequencies are you guys running, and should I change my crystals to avoid this?

HELPPPP

Also thanks a bunch to bdavidson too! : )


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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 11:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is the stock 4-in-1 reciever dual conversion? I am fairly new to this, but from what I have read, if it is single conversion that could be part of the issue. Also, I cant help but think there was something i read somewhere about channel 17 being prone to interference on single conversion. Oh well it could be my imagination

EDIT: Ahhh.. My mistake. It was channel 20 that is prone to interference (from television channel 4).

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/22/2005 11:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ive had crystals go bad on me in the CP...Its not due to the crystals not being manufactured good....its due to me crashing the thing and breaking them. If you've smacked it in, and your getting those funny glitches...its quite possible that youve trashed the crystal. Replace the crystal, and see if that corrects the problem.

With big nitro planes, we have the RX serviced and checked out after a crash....ALWAYS. With the little electrics, barely anyone does this. They just go fly it again. Unfortunatly in a bad crash, it can damage the 4-in-1 internally. Just something to keep in mind, as it may not be interference at all, but a loose solder joint, broken crystal, etc.

Also bear in mind that the RX in the Blade is a very simple FM reciever. It doesnt have PCM modulation, or any noise cancelling stuff built in like the higher priced Rx's, so it is more suseptible to outside interference.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/23/2005 12:54 AM   
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Bdavison

Thanks you for all your data,knowledge,and time!! I am using your set up and i am hooked. BUT i have a question???
does the 4 in 1 need to be level on all axis??? THANKS AGAIN !

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Bob

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/23/2005 1:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		zooland1 I fly all year, and I truely love to drive in the snow and even ice. I commute 70 miles each way with no trouble in my wifes car until the snow exceeds 12" then I have to drive the truck.

I flew this morning under the parking lot lights at work, it was 16 degrees at 0600. I happen to like it cold, I don't wear coats and I don't fly if the temp is over 80 degrees I just stay inside in the A/C. I have flown in below 0 temps many times though and will again. You can have them hurricanes I'll keep the winter weather IT'S GREAT.

I'm still not sold on the Blade CP after numerous flights. It's better now, but still very twitchy and very slow to react to cyclic input.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/23/2005 6:06 AM   
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I posted some pics in the thread about it:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3645712/mpage_3/key_/tm.htm

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/23/2005 9:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pilot352....www.milehighwings.com.....$44.95 for the FMS flight simulator cable and a disk with the
FMS flight simulator on it and you can use your Blade CP transmitter. There are hundreds of sites
with additional FMS planes and heli's to download for free. Something to think about.........

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/23/2005 8:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Quick question on head assembly!

Bdavidson, your explanation on the head assembly was great.
I’m just not sure how much to tighten the cap screws to keep the blade grips together, having the orings in the mix makes me think I can make em pretty tight because of the squish factor, but I might be wrong? Any ideas?



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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/23/2005 10:04 PM   
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I lived up there for 35 years and when I got the chance to move south I grabbed it. I work on historic home restoration now and am lovin life. My son on the other hand moved back up to the Chicago after two years here and doesn't mind the cold at all. To each his own. Besides living in Savannah we don't really get the hurricanes like other places. We're kind of in a cove here and may get some heavy rains at times, but a hurricane has never actually touched ground here. It did hit 34 last night, had to turn up the heat!!

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/24/2005 5:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well the wife bought me one of these so I figured I better subscribe to this thread. Great detail Mr.D and thanks for all the info, I sincerely appreciate the info/help. Why all the hype on the Bell/hiller? I know very little about helis.
Merry Christmas ALL!!!

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/24/2005 6:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well I upgraded my BCP with the Bell/Hiller head from the CP2. It is indeed much more responsive but I'm not entirely sure why. I know that the O-ring setup in the stock BCP head was a lot softer and I'm sure that has something to do with the extra responsiveness. [I have to go back and add some shims] However I'm now having a weird problem where the tail is behaving erratically. For instance, when I add or reduce throttle/collective it swings out wildly. I'm not sure if this is coincidence or what. BTW, my tail is DD with a 3030 prop. Maybe the motor is bad? I just installed it last night and it was holding the tail great all day. Hmmm.

Anyone else who has done the Bell/Hiller upgrade experience this? Did you have to re-adjust your gain after the upgrade?

Thanks for the help!

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/24/2005 9:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been keeping up with this thread for a while, thanks for the help.

Im new to my Blade CP, and helis in general.

Mine was flying fine, (as good as it could for a new pilot), untill I dissasembled it after a heavy crash that snaped my tail boom off.
Now when I try to hover, the altitude will drop a few feet, then pick back up. The movements aren't sudden, but are very noticable that somethings wrong.

Any help would be great! Thanks

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/24/2005 11:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys, what chargers do you use to charge your LiPo batteries? im thinking about just getting the e-flite ac/dc charger, but dont know if its worth it?

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/24/2005 1:50 PM   
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I did not have to change my gain or mix on the 4-in-1 when I did the same upgrade. I am still using the stock tail rotor setup. The only strang thing I have hit is when I tried to take some of the slop out of the blade holder assembly using shims. When I got things too stiff, the tail would "bob" up and down while flying. It would start small and just build until the thing almost became un-flyable. I removed my shims and it returned to normal. After I pulled out the shims I no longer had as much play. I think I got one of the inner washers (between the blade holder bearing and the screw) stuck outside the shaft (one of the ones that should go over it). This caused my to have way too much slop, when I got the washers over the shaft correctly, everything seems snug again without shims.

The bell-hiller gives more responce since some of the throw from the swash plate goes directly to the blades throught the mixer arms. More throw is added as the fly-bar catches up. With the stock setup, the blades have to wait for the fly-bar for any input. I don't know about you, but I find that I can hover in really small spots better now, part practice, part new-head.

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/24/2005 2:52 PM   
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I'll try a different tail motor and see what happens. I'm leaving for vacation later this evening so I may not be able to get to it until the new year.

Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to everybody!

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/24/2005 4:43 PM   
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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/25/2005 7:43 AM   
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So after my last crash and repair, it was just yoyoing in flight. Then I got a new main body, and reassembled it. I had all the linkages on the servos set too long, so I wouldnt get enough lift to really fly. I had the throttle at mid, so I hit the idle up switch, and the motor lit up. (On fire) It was at night, so it looked pretty cool, but then it wouldnt throttle down.
So I shut off the TX. That didnt help. So I had to reach under the blades on the ground and grab it and unplug the battery. The blades only hit my arm once.

Any help here?

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RE: Bdavison's E-flite Blade Assembly - 12/26/2005 2:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey, guys.
I got a BCP for christmas and I followed Bda's excellent guide on ballancing it and setting it up, thanks Bda =D. I'm getting close to eliminating the tail spinning, but I am having tons of trouble canceling out the heli's desire to slide to the left, I'm trying this by chaning the trim. Also, I am fiddeling with out the lexan body, does it make a difference in learning how to hover?

Thanks

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