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cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 3:55:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 quote: ORIGINAL: Rollin Thunder In my opinion the best and cheapest way to start is with a SIM and FP. With a few cheap mods most of the RTF #4 can be reliable. A lot of the glitches are caused by the stock servos which should never be used. Just replace them with some cheap SG90's. Add a 7.5amp mini buss fuse in-line with the main and tail motors. It's common to crash one with no damage at all. If there is damage it will be cheap to fix. The #4 isn't as stable as a CP but that's good for building your reflexes. Once you have masted the #4 you can be confident you will be able to handle ANY CP. When I first got my 36 I about fell over at how easy it was to fly compared to the #4. It saves me big $$$$$$$. A noob will always crash a lot trying to learn. Why not let them start with something damage resistant and cheap to fix? In short I agree with Chop. I really want to learn this if it kills my wallet, so should I sell the cp pro and get a #4, I can find them on ebay, should I get the one with the bling and the 2.4ghz or the regular #4, I want to be able to fly, so should I get the #4 and practice, or should I get the 4 3B palm heli and learn inside, is this little heli good to learn on, thanks for everything guy's and sorry to be a pain, just want to fly[&o]. BTW I have FMS with a 6 CH radio

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 3:58:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 quote: ORIGINAL: Rollin Thunder In my opinion the best and cheapest way to start is with a SIM and FP. With a few cheap mods most of the RTF #4 can be reliable. A lot of the glitches are caused by the stock servos which should never be used. Just replace them with some cheap SG90's. Add a 7.5amp mini buss fuse in-line with the main and tail motors. It's common to crash one with no damage at all. If there is damage it will be cheap to fix. The #4 isn't as stable as a CP but that's good for building your reflexes. Once you have masted the #4 you can be confident you will be able to handle ANY CP. When I first got my 36 I about fell over at how easy it was to fly compared to the #4. It saves me big $$$$$$$. A noob will always crash a lot trying to learn. Why not let them start with something damage resistant and cheap to fix? In short I agree with Chop. I really want to learn this if it kills my wallet, so should I sell the cp pro and get a #4, I can find them on ebay, should I get the one with the bling and the 2.4ghz or the regular #4, I want to be able to fly, so should I get the #4 and practice, or should I get the 4 3B palm heli and learn inside, is this little heli good to learn on, thanks for everything guy's and sorry to be a pain, just want to fly[&o]. BTW I have FMS with a 6 CH radio really want to learn this if it kills my wallet, so should I sell the cp pro and get a #4, I can find them on ebay, should I get the one with the bling and the 2.4ghz or the regular #4, I want to be able to fly, so should I get the #4 and practice, or should I get the 4 3B palm heli and learn inside, is this little heli good to learn on, thanks for everything guy's and sorry to be a pain, just want to fly[&o] yes I do have the FMS with a 6 ch radio, sorry for the double post.

helifan06 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 4:06:28 PM)
It all depends on your budget; I will go straight for a TREX SA; I saw some hobby shops sells them under $350 used and RTF.

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 5:18:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: helifan06 It all depends on your budget; I will go straight for a TREX SA; I saw some hobby shops sells them under $350 used and RTF. Im a noob, Trex a little advance for me, they say I need an FP heli, any you recommed thanks helifan06.

helifan06 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 5:28:59 PM)
I bought many helis to start with, and it is not that I changed to TREX that I could have more fly time

babyhuey -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 7:09:16 PM)
What is the deal with the Blade 400? They are all over Ebay for cheap! I thought that they are supposed to be almost as good as the Trex. You can get a DF4 on Ebay cheap and then go to the forums and find out all of the tricks that RT and Chop use to make them work. Make sure that you stock up on head blocks, tail motors, tail blades, tail blade keepers, main blades, flybars, landing gear, head connectors,and 4 in 1s. That is after you replace the servos, motors ,battery, and electronics.LOL

Chophop -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 7:18:18 PM)
You might want to hold onto the CP Pro. With the new tail motor mod gaining popularity, you may wish you had. And you would probably just loose money selling it. Trust us on the FP. You could crash 3 or 4 times in a few minutes and keep on flying. You could be looking at a lot of time and money on CP doing the same. I am going to say the Honey Bee Mark 3 at Hobby-Lobby.com, qty 4, Mystery 900mah 15C batteries ($8ea) and at least 2 Esky chargers ($9 ea) at dealextreme.com would be a good way to go. Then you will need some spare blades and head parts. Cheap $3 stuff. Thew main reason I say the HBFP MK3 is the system is easily able to modded to run a brushless main. The 2.4ghz ones will probably need a $35 brushless converter in addition to the speed control. CH

Chophop -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/10/2008 7:22:53 PM)
Oh yea, the HBFP is compatible with Futaba 72mhz transmitters. BIG plus. They are going cheap these days with the migration to 2.4ghz leaving 72mhz more open. Ch

babyhuey -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/11/2008 2:40:58 AM)
Has anyone noticed that the Walkera blades don't fit the alloy blade grips but the Trex blades do? And is our beloved 36 going extinct as it seems that the distributers are running their parts stock out?

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/11/2008 4:18:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chophop You might want to hold onto the CP Pro. With the new tail motor mod gaining popularity, you may wish you had. And you would probably just loose money selling it. Trust us on the FP. You could crash 3 or 4 times in a few minutes and keep on flying. You could be looking at a lot of time and money on CP doing the same. I am going to say the Honey Bee Mark 3 at Hobby-Lobby.com, qty 4, Mystery 900mah 15C batteries ($8ea) and at least 2 Esky chargers ($9 ea) at dealextreme.com would be a good way to go. Then you will need some spare blades and head parts. Cheap $3 stuff. Thew main reason I say the HBFP MK3 is the system is easily able to modded to run a brushless main. The 2.4ghz ones will probably need a $35 brushless converter in addition to the speed control. CH Honey Bee Mk 3 Ready-to-Fly Micro Electric RC Helicopter (White) - Included 2-cell LiPoly battery doubles your flight time Main blade ... Charger 110V USA (two feet, flat).... Battery pack (8.4v Ni-mh) .... ok just ordered the Honey Bee with extras[:D] Tail rotor blade

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/11/2008 4:19:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 quote: ORIGINAL: Chophop You might want to hold onto the CP Pro. With the new tail motor mod gaining popularity, you may wish you had. And you would probably just loose money selling it. Trust us on the FP. You could crash 3 or 4 times in a few minutes and keep on flying. You could be looking at a lot of time and money on CP doing the same. I am going to say the Honey Bee Mark 3 at Hobby-Lobby.com, qty 4, Mystery 900mah 15C batteries ($8ea) and at least 2 Esky chargers ($9 ea) at dealextreme.com would be a good way to go. Then you will need some spare blades and head parts. Cheap $3 stuff. Thew main reason I say the HBFP MK3 is the system is easily able to modded to run a brushless main. The 2.4ghz ones will probably need a $35 brushless converter in addition to the speed control. CH Honey Bee Mk 3 Ready-to-Fly Micro Electric RC Helicopter (White) - Included 2-cell LiPoly battery doubles your flight time Main blade ... Charger 110V USA (two feet, flat).... Battery pack (8.4v Ni-mh) .... Tail rotor blade ok just ordered the Honey Bee Mk3 with extras[:D]

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/11/2008 4:21:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 quote: ORIGINAL: Chophop You might want to hold onto the CP Pro. With the new tail motor mod gaining popularity, you may wish you had. And you would probably just loose money selling it. Trust us on the FP. You could crash 3 or 4 times in a few minutes and keep on flying. You could be looking at a lot of time and money on CP doing the same. I am going to say the Honey Bee Mark 3 at Hobby-Lobby.com, qty 4, Mystery 900mah 15C batteries ($8ea) and at least 2 Esky chargers ($9 ea) at dealextreme.com would be a good way to go. Then you will need some spare blades and head parts. Cheap $3 stuff. Thew main reason I say the HBFP MK3 is the system is easily able to modded to run a brushless main. The 2.4ghz ones will probably need a $35 brushless converter in addition to the speed control. CH Honey Bee Mk 3 Ready-to-Fly Micro Electric RC Helicopter (White) - Included 2-cell LiPoly battery doubles your flight time Main blade ... Charger 110V USA (two feet, flat).... Battery pack (8.4v Ni-mh) .... Tail rotor blade ok just ordered the Honey Bee Mk3 with extras

brettw -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/11/2008 4:32:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 I really want to learn this if it kills my wallet, so should I sell the cp pro and get a #4, I can find them on ebay, should I get the one with the bling and the 2.4ghz or the regular #4, I want to be able to fly, so should I get the #4 and practice, or should I get the 4 3B palm heli and learn inside, is this little heli good to learn on, thanks for everything guy's and sorry to be a pain, just want to fly[&o]. BTW I have FMS with a 6 CH radio The 4#3B is rather hard to learn on as it is affected by everything. i.e flying close to a wall or couch inside will affect it therefore for learning it will still get you there however may provide additional frustration. IMHO I would go for the 4#1 or 4G1B and change the skids to either superskids or something similar as they always break. Also try helix as a free sim in replacement for FMS. >http://www.heli-x.net/index_e.shtml Cheers Brett

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/11/2008 4:35:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brettw quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 I really want to learn this if it kills my wallet, so should I sell the cp pro and get a #4, I can find them on ebay, should I get the one with the bling and the 2.4ghz or the regular #4, I want to be able to fly, so should I get the #4 and practice, or should I get the 4 3B palm heli and learn inside, is this little heli good to learn on, thanks for everything guy's and sorry to be a pain, just want to fly[&o]. BTW I have FMS with a 6 CH radio The 4#3B is rather hard to learn on as it is affected by everything. i.e flying close to a wall or couch inside will affect it therefore for learning it will still get you there however may provide additional frustration. IMHO I would go for the 4#1 or 4G1B and change the skids to either superskids or something similar as they always break. Also try helix as a free sim in replacement for FMS. >http://www.heli-x.net/index_e.shtml Cheers Brett I just picked up the Honey Bee Mk3, figure I will learn on this one while I fix up th #36.

Chophop -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/11/2008 4:44:35 AM)
The election's OVER ! Be suree to let us know how it goes. I may convert my DF4 head over to the HBFP head if DF4 parts go extinct. For that matter, I could custom machine a metal head for it, or use the new Walkera metal FP head. Ohhh, the excitement ! 2 1/2 years later, I still enjoy the DF4 as much as the 36, CP2 and MX400. Heli's are like women. Get one and a whole bunch seems to show up. But you don't have to keep the heli's from knowing which one you are flying. CH

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/12/2008 4:55:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chophop The election's OVER ! Be suree to let us know how it goes. I may convert my DF4 head over to the HBFP head if DF4 parts go extinct. For that matter, I could custom machine a metal head for it, or use the new Walkera metal FP head. Ohhh, the excitement ! 2 1/2 years later, I still enjoy the DF4 as much as the 36, CP2 and MX400. Heli's are like women. Get one and a whole bunch seems to show up. But you don't have to keep the heli's from knowing which one you are flying. CH well almost over, picked up a 4 3b also so I can practice inside during the winter months.

Rollin Thunder -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/12/2008 7:19:25 PM)
cen Very smart move getting the Honey Bee. The main weakness with those are the tail motor. SO you may be interested in THIS and THIS

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/12/2008 7:39:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rollin Thunder cen Very smart move getting the Honey Bee. The main weakness with those are the tail motor. SO you may be interested in THIS and THIS Direct Drive EDP-50XC this is what your talking about, do I get the new motor also or wait for the death of this one, also how does this direct drive perform compared to the tail setup on the HBFP. you could tell I am a total noob,(heli only) thanks again Rollin Thunder and of course Chophop and all that answered me.

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/12/2008 9:20:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rollin Thunder cen Very smart move getting the Honey Bee. The main weakness with those are the tail motor. SO you may be interested in THIS and THIS one more thing, when they say trim a heli you have to have it hover and slide them tabs on the transmitter left and right so the tail stay's center,am I correct, another noob question.[sm=72_72.gif]

cen1 -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/12/2008 10:52:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cen1 quote: ORIGINAL: Rollin Thunder cen Very smart move getting the Honey Bee. The main weakness with those are the tail motor. SO you may be interested in THIS and THIS one more thing, when they say trim a heli you have to have it hover and slide them tabs on the transmitter left and right so the tail stay's center,am I correct, another noob question.[sm=72_72.gif] also brought this for the 4 3b

Rollin Thunder -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/13/2008 2:07:23 AM)
Cen Hell, might as well use up the motor and prop it comes with. The DD setup has much better tail authority and motor life. Yes you will have to trim aileron, elevator and yaw the way you said. Ron

Chophop -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/13/2008 2:56:38 AM)
I don't think he needs to worry about the tail for now. Those tail upgrades are for aerobatic type flying, and the heavier DD tail motor can cause balance problems with the lighter 7.4v power. He'll get 180 to 200 flights from a stock tail motor. And the lighter setup has made the heli more stable for me. Plus when it's simple and light, it's easier to recover a heli that is searching for that whack sound. As soon as it finds it, parts fly off. Correctly said, it's easier to correct sudden dives. When I first started, I was at 350g flying weight and those blades just didn't hold it in the air so well. I often crashed from blade stalls. and sometimes pulled the rotor head off from yanking up elevator too fast. I remember those ! [:D] CH

Fugitive_Bill -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/13/2008 4:30:02 PM)
Got the Assan GY410 gyro, very happy works perfectly on the #36 and DX6i radio. Did quick test spool up in the garage, and the tail holds nicely in 'tail hold' and stops where I command, but a proper flight will be the test. Flipping the 'gyro' switch on the radio to normal mode works perfectly too. Will go flying the plane's and heli's (and hopefully a 3 metre Cirrus glider converting to electric) on Sunday 19th so I'll get a few quick videos. I've fixed most of my other problems ie; the CA'd head part, blade tracking, Tail loose on boom!) B!

Chophop -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/13/2008 4:49:49 PM)
Here we go ! The 36 is back on Walkera's website as the 36B 2.4ghz. I think the plastic head is gone, or maybe there will be a 2.4ghz plastic 36. It looks like that aftermarket head, but maybe better quality. I could buy the cheap one and beef it up since I have a machine shop. I could make my own heads from scratch, but that would take a long time if not properly setup for production. So, I feel better now, the 36 did not die ! It's a nice heli for sport and mild 3D. and at over 600 flights on one, it's made fairly well. Hopefully the main gear wear and wobble problem is fixed. Or else I'll play MicroHeli and start making them. http://www.walkera.com/en1/particular.jsp?pn=Z136%23B24G0104 CH

babyhuey -> RE: Walkera Dragonfly #36 (10/14/2008 3:23:48 AM)
I'm glad that they are still making the 36 but I wonder why web sites are dropping the parts for it. And still no response about Walkera's 2.4 ghz radios. Does anyone know about them? I'd like to buy one of the indoor helis but not if the radios are junk!

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