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Rudder Practice - 1/8/2002 4:24:04 AM   
bob_nj


 

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Status: offline 		Judging by the lack of responses when asked elsewhere, this may be a silly question, but my latest therapy sessions on the simulator include the following dilema. What are you guys using as an aid for applying the proper rudder while inverted? The scenario is inverted passes from both directions. Let's say we're going from left to right this time, wind is blowing out. You line it up at the end of the field. Without thinking, what tricks are you using to instinctively and repeatedly tap the rudder in the right direction for needed corrections?
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Rudder Pratice - 1/8/2002 10:04:48 PM   
fishgod



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Status: offline 		check out[URL=http://www.mcia.com/~donramsey/FourthControl.htm]Barnstormers Fourth Control[/URL]
Great tips for practicing rudder. Basically when inverted and comming at you, Push the nose in the direction you want the nose to go. When going away from you push the tail in the direction you want it to go.

Michael

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Thanks alot - 1/8/2002 10:36:03 PM   
bob_nj


 

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Status: offline 		I'm at work now. Might try to printout the info and digest it. Come On Spring

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Rudder Practice - 1/9/2002 12:44:22 AM   
bvmjethead



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Status: offline 		I got a chopper and learned to fly the snot out of it. Nothing I had tried helped me more, choppers MAKE you fly the rudder at all times.

Scott

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Rudder - 1/10/2002 11:25:40 PM   
Anthony-RCU


 

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Status: offline 		The most powerful control on any airplane is wrong rudder.

The Barnstormer site has some of the best info I have seen. I have been struggling with inverted rudder corrections myself. If you have to think about you won't do it right. Just keep practicing it until it is automatic. Fly lots of double I's and Outside I's pulling and pushing the nose with rudder. Also, Cubans with out rolls, vertical 8's, etc. Even inverted flat turns and figure 8s. Also, use a stick plane and think out your inputs as you dry fly it.
I have been trying spend a few minutes of every flight and am now at the point I push wrong rudder upright! Hopefully soon it will become automatic.

Anthony

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Rudder Practice - 1/11/2002 4:51:54 AM   
wgeffon



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Status: offline 		I just praticed over and over a ton (with a lot of mistakes)

A good manuever to pratice (if you have a 3D capable plane) is an inverted elevator or harrier. If you blow the rudder on these usually the manuever is blown.


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Wayne

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rudder - 1/11/2002 7:11:45 AM   
Don Szczur



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Status: online 		if its coming toward you, push the rudder where you want the nose to go.

Note- that every plane I've flown, inverted harrier requires holding left rudder as you are coming down to counter-act the right thrust (and torque) with right aileron if you give it throttle.

If its going by in front of you parallel to the runway, push the rudder in the direction its going, (for it to turn away).

BTW the latter is also a good way to enter an inverted rolling circle (happens a lot in unknowns) with the correct initial rudder input- without having to think about it.

Consider this the TOC tip of the day...

Cheers!
Don

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