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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 4:51:38 PM   
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So compared to the T-II the T-III has more mixes but less switches to assign them to?

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 6:32:13 PM   
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HAA!!!
there is NO option to set a mixer as a permanently ON ( Normally ON). That's silly
you can instead put couple of functions uder one switch I assume and seems like it works

More please
What else is new.
One week is too little to learn enough.

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 6:38:22 PM   
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I stand by my statement analog trims are old technology. I believe the current radio market proves my statement.

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I did a survay over 2 1/2 years at shows. More that 85% did not want digital trims. One of the main resons was that you have not idea where your trim is unless you lok at the screen and most of us would have a lawn dart if we spent any time looking at the screen.


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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 6:48:19 PM   
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I stand by my statement that I like the Tracker III trims just the way they are. Good job J S Gill. I am sure the majority of the people you talked to did want it that way.

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 6:54:00 PM   
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quote:

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HAA!!!
there is NO option to set a mixer as a permanently ON ( Normally ON). That's silly
you can instead put couple of functions uder one switch I assume and seems like it works
ZM

There should be that option and it should appear in the "assign switch" window
from manual: Press DATA [+] or [-] to select switch ((*)A,C,D,E,F,OR NO
NO = no switch I hope it doesn't mean no mix!!
I think this is just a glitch as you should always have the choice.

Trim preference is 6 of one, half dozen of the other. I prefer the manual trims with trim memory. I definately don't like digital throttle trim.

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 7:13:42 PM   
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Trims!

One of the major isues to use digi trim with recent computer radios was possibities to store trim setting for each model memory.
Old analog ( sliders) did not allowed to do it so you ended up with trimming your model every time you enter your next model out off memory.
Polk's trims are detected digitally and you are able to store trimming to each model without interupting other model setting.
We got the real winner here
Market is one thing and people would buy how given gadget is able to attract them to it
reality of flying is not market related
If anything is wrong with sliders I am able to corect all 3 functions in a matter of 2 seconds with both tumbs at the same time
I able to fly glider using only trims for gantle turning behavior and place the trims back in similar positions after I'm done with it. Can you do it with digi trims on both hands. Good luck.

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 7:15:14 PM   
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More mixes, but less (one less) switch: yep, that's true.

It yes, you can set it to "no swtich", but when you do that, the mix just doesn't work. I suspect it's a actual bug, ie they didn't mean for it to be that way, but it just slipped through the software QA. I expect it to be fixed in a later software revision.

If I have a "turn off and crash" mix, I'll set it to a 3-pos switch and use a wheel collar to lock the switch to the middle position, which is "on". That should work for now.

On thinking about it, if all you fly is ARF's, and do some sport flying, I suspect digital trims might be more convenient, since you trim the plane once, and never have to mess with the trims again. And having them "saved" automatically means not having to think about it. Since current ARFs often fly with very small trim changes right off the board, it's not a big deal that you can't get a lot of trim in quickly.

For me personally, being able to shove all trim in fast is necessary, and something I wouldn't want to not have. But trims are clearly a pesonal preference thing, not "better" or "worse". I suspect that the push button trims are actually cheaper to manufacture as well, since you replace a pot that has to be calibrated with 2 push buttons. So, if I had to guess why most computer radios are this way, I'd say money as much as anything.

And fwiw, the trims are actually read digitally. And they do some neat things that old truely analog trims can't do. Like you have trim rate, which allows you to make each "click" of trim move the servo a small amount. I test fly on 100%, which is normal. After the first flight, I set my trim rate to 50%, which makes each click move the servo half as much. If I still have a "one click too much" type problem, I to to a smaller number. It's really nice for fine trimming. Also, once you save the trim setting in memory (Trim Memory feature), then you re-center the levers, and get full trim from your new center point. It's like an automatic sub-trim. So while the sliders are "old style", the actual internal workings are actually not at all like older systems with mechanical sliders.

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 7:19:32 PM   
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I am testing N position right now on variety of mixers
It might mean no switch, but blinks like is nothing on
I will let you know
ZM

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 7:37:09 PM   
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I have checkaed most of the mixers
"N" means NO MIXER
It means we need new gang switch board under the hood.
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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 8:32:39 PM   
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NO= no switch

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 8:40:02 PM   
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NO= no switch

Does that mean the mix doesn't work or it works full time without the use of a switch? That seems to be the question here.

Thanks

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 9:43:18 PM   
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On "N" mixers do not work, believed or not
Sorry for a nail
did you guys revive that differential issue?
I got no more inteligence to explain the phenomenon there
I still need to experiment with some kind of test stand to measure deployment there
It looks like Split mixer of one input overides throw of flap input and then goes in oposit direction.
I need to sleep over with it
So no 100% differential so far.
ZM

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 10:03:36 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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NO= no switch

Does that mean the mix doesn't work or it works full time without the use of a switch? That seems to be the question here.

Thanks

I think it means "NO" is "supposed to mean" no switch, on all the time.
But actually "NO" means no switch to turn it on??=no mix.


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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 10:21:09 PM   
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NO= no switch, this means that you have to assign a switch for the mix to work, you can assign to all switches including the channel switches 5 & 8, but not to the trainer switch

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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 10:25:52 PM   
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Do you think an option can be added to make a mix "always on" ? For mixes used to do things like drive duel elevator servos, or servos in a 4-servo wing, having a mix get turned off accidentally could be fatal to the airplane.


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RE: TrackerIII mini-review - 8/15/2005 11:07:23 PM