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HI Tim, perfect job you show us here. Nice plane, done with such a perfection brings always the best results. I hope, that you will have an absolute star on your airport.. Regards Tomas
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jimmy, according to Mr. Merrick in his reference that i'm using (and without trying to violate any copyright laws) he says RLM 70 was used for crew seating structures. to me it doesn't look quite right after looking at full scale photos of the cockpit but then again i didn't get a chance to see Wick's actual cockpit.
thanks for the info on the Tamiya paints. right now i'm mixing my own but i'll try to keep those paint numbers in mind the next time i'm at the hobby store. interestingly, though, i did start with khaki and added black and white and a slight amount of yellow to come up with the color. so i guess i'm on the right track! thanks!
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....... pic 2-3: per this reference the cockpit should be RLM02 which is a very light greenish-gray color. i'm a little disappointed in my color matching. my RLM02 appears to be a little too green and too dark. i'm using Tamiya Acrylic paints.
Hello Tim! If you are using Tamya acrilics RLM 02 is something between xf-49 and xf-60 ( not working with such kind of paint, only auto-paints on R/C models) somekind of khaki with more yellow in it. As I know RLM 70 was a verry dark green used for propeller blades. Your's Jimmy
jimmy, according to Mr. Merrick in his reference that i'm using (and without trying to violate any copyright laws) he says RLM 70 was used for crew seating structures. to me it doesn't look quite right after looking at full scale photos of the cockpit but then again i didn't get a chance to see Wick's actual cockpit.
thanks for the info on the Tamiya paints. right now i'm mixing my own but i'll try to keep those paint numbers in mind the next time i'm at the hobby store. interestingly, though, i did start with khaki and added black and white and a slight amount of yellow to come up with the color. so i guess i'm on the right track! thanks!
Hello Tim! I was verry curious to read about the 109 E interior colours. Unfortunately did not find the Vol 1 ( your's ) but find vol. 2 & 3! In early stages of war '39-40, RLM 04, 70 , 71 were common colours for camo schemes, lot of Me's were painted on upper surfaces totaly in RLM 70 ( black-green ), or in combination with RLM 04 or RLM 04+RLM 71 ( dark green ). So it's possible to get ( RLM 70 ), from "outside" to "inside". But in 1943-1944 when Helmut Wick's Me 109 flied, it's less probable to have RLM 70 "inside". All the pics with Me109 E interior what I'v seen till now , none was wit " black" seat. Here are at least seven motives to paint the seat in RLM 04 Your's Jimmy
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Tubig, I think you are proving the Dave Platt theory: a scale plane is never finished, you just stop working on it. I know you are having fun and its great to see your work! Keep it up!
Oups! Got to make a correction! But in 1943-1944 when Helmut Wick's Me 109 flied, it's less probable to have RLM 70 "inside". Wrong! 1940! Sorry Jimmy
yeah, according to what i've read the colors changed shortly after Wick's last flight in late '40. maybe that's why the photos of 109's that i've seen have the lighter green rather than the black-green. i do have a book on Wick with lots of photos of his aircraft. unfortunately, they're all in black and white making it difficult to tell.
i went back and took another look at the instrument panel with and without the spacer and it looks better without. i also made the instrument bezels. i borrowed an idea i saw from another thread about making identical bezels by putting bezel blanks on a brass rod and then sanding them all together. it was still a very labor intensive project but the end result looks ok.
pic 3: a few glue drops to simulate screws (ok, so they look more like rivets but i'm beginning to lose my motivation for this and i wanted a quick and easy way out) and with a little RLM66 paint on the panels and backing pieces to hide any balsa that may show through. i made a few more bits and pieces to add to the panel and should be able to put it all together tomorrow.
i think the last major piece i have to make for the cockpit is the armored plate behind the pilot. for now i just have a couple of pieces of plastic glued together. the top piece was heated and curved around a 1/2" dowel prior to glueing. more on this tomorrow.
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[/quote] yeah, according to what i've read the colors changed shortly after Wick's last flight in late '40. maybe that's why the photos of 109's that i've seen have the lighter green rather than the black-green. i do have a book on Wick with lots of photos of his aircraft. unfortunately, they're all in black and white making it difficult to tell. [/quote] http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhorta/jgscheme01.htm A fine link to a fine site! Enjoy the content! I'm sure find interesting things! About camo? ...... Seems that ,after the Battle of Britain started, in summer of 1940 , there are making changes in camo combinations .... in the meantime Wick's plane was twice overpainted ( probably with the newer 65+02+71 scheme? ) ..... and a lot of other stuff ,goodies for a scalebuilder . Pics 1 and 2 could be also a good clue. Your's Jimmy
today i was able to add all the other bits and pieces and get everything painted up. i may try to get some rub-n-buff to add some weathering effects before installing. i would like to say i'm indebted to whoever sent me the file with the cockpit photo. i used the instruments from that which has everything in German/metric and had other little small items like the magneto switch lettering.
pic4: also managed to finish up the armored plate. the thick armor was made by covering 1mm balsa with card paper. then two coats of dope were brushed onto the paper to keep it from fuzzing. before gluing the balsa plate in place an aluminum tape backing was stuck onto the larger plastic plate (hard to see in the photo). finally before painting i countersunk three holes into the balsa plate. there on the full scale but i have absolutely no idea why they're there.
pic 5: probably nothing new here but i thought i would you show my poor man's lathe for making small round objects. comes in pretty handy when making control knobs and switches. model lab board (chemiwood for our friends across the little pond) ca's easily to the brass tube, sands easy and after shaping it snaps right off without damaging the part.
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