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NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 8/21/2005 4:04:57 PM   
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Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom
First 3-Channel Beginner RTF Plane with Anti-Crash Technology

This one looks quite amazing. A 3 channel, mid wing, trainer with ACT. It even looks kinda cool.

Not much to say. Check the link and read about it. Looks amazing for a trainer.


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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 1/8/2006 3:48:32 AM   
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I just bought this plane today and it works great. i upgraded from the Firebird commander 2 so i could have the third channel. If you are looking for a great begginer plane i would highly recomend it.

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 1/8/2006 4:05:11 AM   
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Bought a Firebird Freedom for my son for Christmas. Had to wait for a day with decent weather, but finally were able to fly last Sunday. My regular field was too muddy, so we flew the plane from a small parking lot nearby. The lot is about 180ft.x200ft. and is surrounded by trees ranging from 20ft. to 35ft. The first flight was terrific: took off, banked and climbed over the trees, flew for about 8 minutes. He was a little nervous to make his landing approach between two rows of trees, so I landed the plane for him. I only flew it for about a minute, but it seems to fly very nicely: not much different than my Aerobird Challenger. Put in a fresh battery, took off again. Not so good this time: didn't clear the trees! Tore the tail right off. Hard way to learn to stay away from trees.

A little CA and a little epoxy, and the plane is ready to go again. Unfortunately the weather has not been cooperative, so we sit and wait for the third flight. Hopefully the field won't be too muddy and the trees will not be such an immediate danger.

As far as the Firebird Freedom - an excellent beginner's plane. Didn't get to test the ACT too much, but on the first flight the plane seemed to fly better without it.

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 1/10/2006 8:56:59 PM   
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I am very close to buying a FF as my first plane. The only question I have is about the charger. It looks like it only comes with a DC charger that plugs into a car outlet. I live very near to where I would fly it, so it would be a pain to have to charge the battery for 40 minutes in my car each time. Am I missing something? Does anyone have a recommendation about a good (cheap) wall charger that would work here? It has a 7-cell 8.4V battery. Thanks.

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 1/22/2006 9:09:29 PM   
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I just bought the FF two days ago. Never flown an RC before. Took a nosedive coming in for landing after only flying for about 5 minutes. Now I going to the store to buy some CA glue to repair the tail wing.

The car charger took 70 minutes to charge the battery. I've looked into getting the wall charger, but saw on the Hobbyzone website that the wall charger doesn't fully charge, only the car charger gives you a full charge! Didn't make sense to me, but for now I'm going to buy two extra batteries and make a copy of my car key so I can charge while at work.

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 1/23/2006 6:27:50 AM   
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Stay Away From Trees!!!!!!!
Leo L,
I went out and Bought me the Hobbyzone firebird commander 2 with its A.C.T (Anti-Crash Technology). Same lesson stay away from trees . You where lucky, my plane got stuck in the tree damn tree I had to wait until morining the next day to climb up and get it down got. Wing was broken , put purchased another from the hobbyshop.

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 2/12/2006 12:16:18 AM   
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Im USAF Jet engine Mechanic 15 years--lots of mechanical experience and A&P certified. I have flown RC many times--(not electric)

Im not convincedabout this plane..but I did buy two.

The wifes first toss= beautiful lift out for about 50 feet then.... hard right cartwheeling dive and bent wing. (Shes now my launch slave)

Mine: flew awesome for first 4 minutes..then motor unexpectedly cut off and unlike advertised, I had NO controls. Fortunately I was flying level and it landed unharmed--only to have the motor insultingly turn on at impact.

Trouble shooting--changed battery (after all wife was finished with hers anyway) changed Tranmitter batteries, checked tail rig, did two person ops check at specified distance--everything good. Launched second time--flew great for about 1 minute in perfect control...motor sputtered ..It came on, it went off, on, off nose dived and cartwheeled knocking propellar off, collapsing nose, bent wing, broken tail, battery broke the canopy off and dislodged its self from housing. Other than that....perfect!
Oh-yeah...the motor kicked on on impact--again. SWEET!

Called Hobbyzone but not open for business on saturday??? ****?
Now have $300 worth of useless plastic in garage.

Another question--has hobbyzone ever thought of zip-tieing the wires in the fuselage in a way that prevents them from entangling in the servo mechanism?? I mean, they used zip ties quite nicely in the package to keep it secured for shipment-- why not where it really counts?. I found battery red wire touching servo cam and plane two had black antenna wire passing straight through the linkage and cought.

6 minutes of collective fly time is not wrth $300--look elsewhere


Few other gripes: Wing stickers have many bubbles in them, AA batteries included are useless (too small to stay in transmitter) I R2'd those immediately, charger took over an hour in car. I left it charging right up untill fly time (all-night) Tail and wings are NOT durable. Rear wheel is flimsy at best and main gear tires are pathetic--soft foamy wheels.

The center mount wing scheme is nifty; knocked loose with each crash but never failed--carbon spar is interesting and strong but does absolutely nothing to prevent bent wings.
Over all-- I think this bird could be fun and exciting if Hobbyzone will work out the bugs, improve the quality.

Im sure this could be a great zone 1 plane...Im not convinced as of todays "double wammy"! Will post more after speaking with Hobbyzone Monday.





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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 2/12/2006 1:28:31 AM   
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I've never had a problem with mine... I'd return it, and they should refund you, because the way it just cut out. My TX batteries stayed in just fine, but the ones that I replaced the with (Duracell) have already outlasted them. I soloed my first nitro plane today. It was a trainer, and it wasn't much more difficult than my FF. I do have 50 flights or so on the FF. Also, teh nitro trainer is even more sensitive than the FF with the controls maxed out. i did atleast 20 touch and goes today, and other various things on one battery. I get atleast 15 minutes on half power, sometimes full, and maybe 10 full power the whole time for aerobatics. I'm curious to see how the mini super sporster will compare. I have one ordered, and have a brushless for it...

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 3/8/2006 4:58:06 PM   
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never use the ACT. I was at the flying field flying over water with it and it starting going crazy on me so i switched ACT off and it flew great. the motor only sputters because of the ACT!!!

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 3/10/2006 2:55:40 PM   
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Just a reminder, the manual states never to fly over water with the ACT on....the reflection can "confuse" the sensors...

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 3/13/2006 3:38:12 PM   
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I've got one in pieces in the box packed. away. It sucked, would bend wings way too easily and the radio gear and charger are crap IMHO.
Get an Easystar, you won't be dissapointed. (sorry, had to say it)

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 3/20/2006 2:03:23 PM   
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I encountered one huge problem with my freedom. It seems to bank hard left with or without motor on. I adjusted control surfaces and everything, idk. Anyone had this same problem with theirs. Seems to be weight distribution or something. Thanks

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 3/20/2006 3:18:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jetboy11914

I encountered one huge problem with my freedom. It seems to bank hard left with or without motor on. I adjusted control surfaces and everything, idk. Anyone had this same problem with theirs. Seems to be weight distribution or something. Thanks



Make sure you've don't have a decal sticking up on your left wing. It creates huge drag and has caught me and my buddy out a few times.

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 3/21/2006 12:36:32 AM   
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hey nothinglasts,
So you haven't encountered any weight problems just a decal problem? Thanks for your help, i just got a new wing today so i'll give it a try when this stupid weather clears over.

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RE: NEW Hobbyzone Firebird Freedom - 3/21/2006 11:09:34 AM   
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It seems that if the plane does not have enough air speed, it banks to the left as you describe. My son's Freedom took off from the ground with no problem, but when we tried to hand launch, it would bank sharply to the left and crash. We found that by taking a couple of running steps and then releasing, thereby increasing the speed, the plane would hand launch with no problems. Also on landing, if you slow it down too much, it will stall the left wing, bank left and crash. Good luck!

For now, we put away the Freedom and bought him a Slow-V. A much better plane for a beginner.

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