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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 11:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Guys if your glo engine is'nt primed and ain't ready to start first flick don't flip the prop over,ever.If you do and it won't start you begin to hear weird noises form the individual parts involved in the whole mechanical process.It would be like listening to the what the handbrake is saying to me at any given time and really listining,painfull

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 11:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry about the spelling and they do sound better when they are running

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 12:01 PM   
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Status: online 		greatlakesgunny, your plans sound wonderful. If I can retire as intended in a few years I may just give you a call to ask if you have a spare house hidden somewhere on the property.

As for some strange noises, I repaired a 56 for a friend last year, and despite the new cam and crank gears if you rotated the engine by hand they was a definite "clicking" when the cam rode over the top of a lobe.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 12:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sometimes the described noise can be a result of the cam and gear moving front to back slightly on the shaft, although the engine is then usually a little noisy when running also. I've found this several times on engines I've repaired and a new set of the little steel washers for the shaft solve the issue. Just another possibility.
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 2:14 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		That clicking is the result of the cam accelerating forward when the cam follower goes over the, "hump" on the cam, the gears are way too strong by comparison to be hurt by it. Being spur cut gears there is no reason for them to move for and aft, if helical cut, then yes they would.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 2:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a Club Saito member, I feel compelled to actually put my engines in planes from time to time. Here are my latesta BUSA "Sopwith Pup" with a .56 on board, and a BUSA "Eindecker 40" with a .45 up front. Both are very pleasant flyers with absolutely great sound on the ground and in the air.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 3:09 PM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		It's probably overdue, but let me know who needs a Club Saito number.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 3:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please check it out. Don't know if I have a Saito Club Member number or not. Thanks.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 3:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I need a club saito #. Currently 72 and 115 but wishing I had more, many more.


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 4:23 PM   
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It's probably overdue, but let me know who needs a Club Saito number.



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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 5:01 PM   
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Guys if your glo engine is'nt primed and ain't ready to start first flick don't flip the prop over,ever.........

This struck me as funny. If you don't turn the prop how do you prime it! Yah I know I'm just being a pain. Sorry Old Fart I could not resist.
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/12/2012 10:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sokay i was a bit peaked at the time i wrote that, huge session in the workshop..you know

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/13/2012 2:30 AM   
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Guys if your glo engine is'nt primed and ain't ready to start first flick don't flip the prop over,ever.........

This struck me as funny. If you don't turn the prop how do you prime it! Yah I know I'm just being a pain. Sorry Old Fart I could not resist.
John



my buddy the Saito lover says "you have to constipate the motor" he means prime.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/13/2012 3:22 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/13/2012 4:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		For all the old timers consider "Old Timer Flying".  There you are a junior if you are under 55, normal member if you are between 55 and 75 and a senior above that.  Saito engines reign in SAM 84 (leastwise in competition) and apart from specific spark ignition and diesel engines are mostly the preferred 4 stroke here in OZ at least as far as I can see.
The 50, 56, 62 and 65 are te predominant engines with the 65 and 56 being my preferred units.
Check out SAM International for a club near you, no "pretty babies" and no primadonnas just old farts enjoying flying old models (and some new ones) in a way that they prefer.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/13/2012 2:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Old fart flyers club! I love it! Betcha no one hovers right over the runway then eh?


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/13/2012 10:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Our old farts club actually started in the USA it is called S.A.M.  (Society of Antique Modellers) which is designed to perpetuate the continuation of mostly pe 1042 design models and their engines. however the need for speed has meant that modern engines and motors (e #^&t%i c) have crept into the hobby.  I am guilty of that.  Our group SAM 84 has youngsters of around 35 with the more mature members in their 70's.
We all enjoy our 4 strokes (read Saito and YS predominantly) but we plawith Leroy's revenge, spark ignition stuff (great for helping to understand the gas Saitos) and diesels.
Yes you are right you hover on an old timer strip at your peril.
Consider the following, a screaming 4 stroke (14,000 upwards rpm) in front of a 4 pound model with a 88 inch wingspan (my Feathermerchant) launched with a 28 second engine run and at the point of transition the wingspan to the naked eye would be about 2 inches.  This equates to about 1,500 feet + depending on the flight which is usually at or about 85 to 87 degrees of the horizontal.  This is followed by as much time as you can milk in the glide.
Don't need a pacemaker for this sort of fun 
 

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/13/2012 11:00 PM   
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A passing comment, after playing with the V6 in my Commodore (GM product) I will never **** about working on any Saito ever again.  Had a miss (turned out to be a cracked spark plug) which necessitated removing the alternator to replace the plug leads and installing the heat shields on the leads is an absolute bugger.  Will save my pennies and give it to some one else to get frustrated over. 



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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/14/2012 1:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		most of my favorites at the flying field are the older members. the young ones lack character and individual style, with few exceptions.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/14/2012 3:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		In my work I deal with lots of younger guys with lots of ar15s with Lots of "accessories"    The same guys with the same guns with the same add on toys remind me of all the ARFs, cookie cutter no pride no class airplanes.  Geez I sound old.  Who remembers print wood kits?  Die cutting was state of the art at one time, gasoline was 11.9 cents a gallon and rocks were soft at one time too. Geez I feel old too.
  

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/14/2012 10:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		The printwood flat balsa sheet parts were fun to cut out and assemble,if it flew even better.Thank Gawd big saito's wer'nt around back in those days

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/14/2012 4:35 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/14/2012 10:48 PM   
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Print wood kits, I have some of them in the kit rack, Flightline I think.  Fleet Biplane scale thing and Marutaka / Royal kits are my thing.  But that is for another place.  I am on the trail of some Saito open rockers (who wants those old things, no power etc) Oh well who am I not to take notice of the needs of others to de clutter their workshops.  Where I live there are lots of old modellers and their sons and grandsons.  It is the later 2 groups that in some cases have no apreciation for ''the old things'' and as such seek to ''get rid of them''  I have been able to return to the O/Timer scene a number of old spark ignition and diesel engines all of which are employed as the makers intended.  I even found a K6 OS engine a while ago (pristine N.I.B.).  But the hunt is on for the Saito open rockers, will eport back if successful in acquiring same. 



I think we can figure out how to make airplanes fly with open rocket engines. we might not be hovering over the middle of the flight line. but we will still have fun i bet. happy hunting to you sir.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/15/2012 1:17 AM  1 votes
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Status: offline 		Can any of you Saito Dudes place this unusual looking Saito, Thanks. I know that the rocker covers are the new after market ones but look at that intake pipe. Early 1.20 or 1.50 maybe?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 12/15/2012 2:29 AM   
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