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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/9/2013 2:11 AM   
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I must have missed the post with my new member number. Thanks - jw0847 - John

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/9/2013 3:56 AM   
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The spell checker doesn't work here and curse upon my soul I have become addicted to it.  Also been "modifying the bosses shop so am more than a little 'Weary"  however there is a sports ARF that is slowly progressing each day with fixed tasks being carried out each day and thus the back up in the shed is being cleared.  Are you coming over to the "cultured" side of the continent over Easter???  If so you can come see out super Saito's in action at Canowindra at the Easter NSW SAM Champs.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/9/2013 4:25 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 12:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a Hanger9 Sundowner 36 with a Saito 82 turning an APC 11x12 prop on Wildcat 15%. Static RPMS are about 9750. To keep weight down and increase Saito Sound, I am using the the 3" straight pipe exhaust from a radial Saito. It's the loudest 4-stroke I've heard, although I use straight pipe exhausts on most of my Saitos.

This plane is the fastest plane I've ever flown, even at half throttle. Tomorrow I will try to talk someone into holding my Bushnell Velocity Speed Sports Radar Gun. It's scary because the plane must be flying almost straight at them. I usually have volunteers stand right behind me with the gun. It's a rush to say the least.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 12:50 AM   
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Are you running tank pressure?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 1:00 AM   
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Never had any issues with pressure, even on long vertical runs.


Buddy says he will bring his video camera tomorrow. I'll do some low passes.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 1:34 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 2:24 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 8:24 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 2:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Guys, I need help with my 82 carb. I bought it used with a bent spraybar. I bought a replacement and tried to remove the old one, but it won't budge. I removed all the other parts, the barrel, the fuel inlet nipple, and the locknut on the spraybar. But the spraybar is in there real tight, I even used a vice grip to try to loosen it

Is there a trick to loosen it? I can tell, but is there something inside the carb body that is holding it in place? Or do I need to heat the carb?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 3:40 PM   
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Is there a trick to loosen it? I can tell, but is there something inside the carb body that is holding it in place? Or do I need to heat the carb?

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Yes, it sounds like you will need to heat the carb body. I replaced the spraybar on my Saito 65 with the improved version and it was a pressed in fit. Just be careful not damage your carb body if the spraybar is bent.




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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 9:03 PM   
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Status: online 		With the carb barrel removed place the carb body in a vice with the open end up against a piece of hard wood and simply close the vice against the spraybar and push it inward. It doesn't need to go very far before it will come loose.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 10:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks for the advice, I got it loose and removed. Then I had difficulty keeping the spraybar slot pointed downstream as I tightened the locknut. I kept turning the whole assembly until it all got tight and lined up.

After assembling the whole carb, I started turning the high speed needle in and discovered that it is really tight. I couldn't check that before because the spraybar was bent. But now, I see that the HS needle and the HSN handle are not concentric. That causes the HSN to be very hard to turn. Looks like I will have to order a new HSN. Another lesson learned: If the spraybar is bent, the HSN is likely tweaked also.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 11:17 PM   
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Looking forward to the vid



http://youtu.be/4uZvzVm6ukc

I couldn't tell, which one was faster?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/10/2013 11:26 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/11/2013 12:15 PM   
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Status: online 		Huk you may have damaged the new needle seat by fitting the bent hsn?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/11/2013 12:19 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/11/2013 1:38 PM   
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Huk you may have damaged the new needle seat by fitting the bent hsn?

I hope not. The needle is bent at the base where it attaches to the handle. It is still straight, only not concentric with the handle. That make it difficult to turn. At least that is my present assessment. I will find out when I get the new needle. From now on, it this happens, I will always buy the needle and jet as a pairl

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/11/2013 2:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone know why they sometimes start in reverse? Also, when its cold, they just don't wont to start? I use 15% fuel, should I use a higher mix?

Below is the video to what I am running... Thanks!

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/11/2013 5:31 PM   
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Also, when its cold, they just don't wont to start? I use 15% fuel, should I use a higher mix


Even W/CDI my standard compression FA180 or FA150 won't start on 15% nitro when it gets cold. The Alcohol doesn't vaporize well @ lower temperatures.

My 12.77:1 CR high compression 180 starts better when it's cold due to the higher combustion chamber temperatures when cranking.

I can use a heat gun to heat up the carburetor & intake manifold. Then, the stock engines will start.

In Northern states, E-85 blends are dropped to about 60% alcohol in winter for the very same reason

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/11/2013 10:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank You! I guess that's why when I take it out of the heated cab of the truck it starts....... rather then at or below 0 it is just not working... Any Idea on why it starts in reverse? I will kill it, and after a few start and stops, it will run. Its not cavitating, it is running in reverse....


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/12/2013 12:45 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/12/2013 1:19 AM   
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just use an electric starter, a cure all for most things like this and saves the fingers

When it gets down below freezing I can turn the stock compression engines over for quite some time W/an electric starter W/no fire.

Just not enough heat build up in the compression of the stock engines.

The high compression 180 will light off when the stock engines won't.

I'm sure that @ a certain minimum temperature the 180HC will fail to start too, but I don't want to be fooling with it when it's that cold.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/12/2013 2:18 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 2/12/2013 11:50 AM   
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