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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 7:24 AM   
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I will go with the SAI8075A/8074A combo to most closely duplicate the old set-up.


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 8:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		MT you might even consider using these pipes for saito too -> http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SAI450R3D74 they would look cool hanging out of your bomber and they have pressure taps for the fuel tank as -well, make sure you get 12mm threaded pipes for the saito 65

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 9:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Even though these pipes are used on the 170 which has Saito 56 cylinders, the threads are the same as the bigger Saito 65,72,80,91,100, & 115 engines. They use an adapter on the radial engine.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 3:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is this style pipe available for the Saito 120 and 180 also? Thanks.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 4:44 PM   
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Status: online 		B409, here's a hint that may help, when tightening the jam nut, tighten it and take note of how far it turns to full tight. Then back it off and back the pipe out exactly the same amount. Now, tighten the jam nut and let the pipe rotate with the jam nut until tight. Holding the pipe in a position and tightening the jam nut will never get it as tight as letting them turn together. Do this with two wraps of Teflon Plumbers tape.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 5:45 PM   
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They (Turboheaders) give 2-400 rpm over the stock mufffler depending on prop load



Thanks for your response.

I think the greater pluses (to me) are lighter weight and that they are smaller and made of aluminum which us more compatible with the aluminum head threads (helps them stay tight)?



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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 6:15 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 6:28 PM   
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This is why we recommend the teflon tape. It helps seal and it protects the threads.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 7:34 PM   
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Status: online 		OK Jims et al, I traded an Enya .90 for this Saito .80, maybe you can pin point the year by the box. The engine has awesome compression, I have a whole house full of company but will try to run the .80 after while.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 9:26 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 9:33 PM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 10:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK the Turboheader has shipped. Sure hope it is as good as the service.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 10:12 PM   
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They have a high temp teflon sealer in a tube. Would it be better than the tape.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 10:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I recommend using the tape. It is more likely to protect the threads. We have worked hard to get the right thread tolerance to avoid any problems. The tape provides a good seal and cushion for the threads. You could try it but I feel the tape would be better.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/5/2010 11:33 PM   
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Status: online 		Charrley, I did a search on Horizon for Saito 65 and obnly got parts to come up that are common with other Saitos. The .65 has apparently been replaced by the .62 which is a sweet heart of an engine.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 2:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Hobbsy!

The Saito .80 you show dates back to the mid 1980's. This is based on the blue and white box. Saito later switched to the black and gold box. I have owned four of these .80's and they are awesome engines. These engines are sometimes refered to as the "high compression" version of the .80. Run great on 10% to 15% nitro. Don't need any higher nitro content. I am still running two of these .80's, although I have replaced the bearings in them over the years. Very easy to do.

This is my first post in this forum and I guess I should summarize my Saito experience. My first Saito was an .80 that I put in a Super Sportster .60. Great flyer! Met its demise avoiding an idiot on the field during landing.
I built a SE-5a from MAN plans and put an .80 in it. Turned out to be way over-powered so I put a .65 in it. Still a bit over-powered but still flying after 20 years!
I bought two more .80's and put them in a variety of .60 sized sport planes and never had any real problems.
When Saito came out with their .91 I bought two with the idea of replacing my .80's. I was disappointed. The .91's never did develop the power that I expected and I was constantly fiddling around with them. Finally sold them both.
Then Saito came out with the 1.00. What a sweet engine! Currently flying one in a Pacific Aeromodel Edge 540 and another in a Hangar 9 Ultra Stick .60. Both are GREAT flying planes. The Edge is set up for on board glow so to start it I open the throttle, spin the prop with the starter for a few seconds, reset the throttle to 3 clicks open, turn on the ignition, hit it with the starter and its running. Starts the same way every time and no dead sticks. Running 15% nitro with 1% castor/16% synthetic.
Along the way I acquired a 1.50 running in an Ultra Hots but I'm retired now and couldn't afford to feed that fuel guzzler.

Since 1985 I have run only Saito 4 strokes so if that qualifies me for club Saito Mr. Moderator - sign me up.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 3:49 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 4:40 AM   
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Status: online 		Thanks Al, I grew up in Hookstown about 24 miles from you, that makes the second high compression .80 I have and I also have a very early High compresion 1.50
I ran the new, ( to me anyway) .80 today, I tried a Graupner 12.5x6 first and a MasterAirscrew K-13x6, by the way it came with my favorite plug a Fox Miracle Plug. The tiny O-ring in the end of the spraybar was missing so I installed one.
Fuel===WildCat 15% 2/4 stroke fuel
Graupner 12.5x6======10,550 rpm
MA K prop 13x6=======10,150
I used a later model muffler like the .91s came with, the thin walled aluminum cans.
It runs really well, I may upgrade the spraybar to the later spraybar.

Jim, The engine has a Q on the right mounting lug.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 5:12 AM   
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 6:33 AM   
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Status: online 		It sure does, the compression stroke is really hard and you better not be slow getting your fingers out of the way when it goes over tdc.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 6:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anybody have fuel consumption charts for saito engines primarily the 180 and 220 engines.Thanks Mitch

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 8:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Saito lovers. Have 2 saito 56's on a small 1/12th scale B-2 and 2 180's on my new 1/8th scale B-2. Running great. Many hours of enjoyment on the smaller 2 and 16 flights so far on the 180's.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 8:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I got an email from horizon hobby saying that my gold plated saito 30 is on its way to my house. So we shall see what it looks like maybe in a few days to a week.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 8:18 AM   
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Anybody have fuel consumption charts for saito engines primarily the 180 and 220 engines.Thanks Mitch





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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 6/6/2010 4:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		What is the deal with the 180 s. I have a brand new one in the box that I have listed three times for sale, have had several hundred views, and not one offer. Are they that unpopular that nobody wants one? Is three hundred too much? Please help

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