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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 2:50:03 PM   
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This may seem like a stupid question...

I have a SA100 and I notice the throttle barrel is spring loaded to full open throttle. Why does Saito do that?

BTW, have 1 gal thru the motor on a 6.5 pound plane and has not skipped a beat.


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 3:30:58 PM   
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Dennis- yeah, it probably is just getting broken in! I know that my 82 is getting stronger and stronger, and it has probably more than 4 gallons thru it.

As far as outlawing these small piston engines....HA! I will mix my own fuel if necessary, until they outlaw all the component ingredients. I mean, what are they going to do- keep a full-time field monitor (cop) on duty just to keep tabs on us? What a brave new world we live in. Cops in the schools, cameras on the light poles, government computers listening to every phone conversation and watching every email. Be afraid! Cripes.... my wife and I are contemplating Australia.


EDIT: Sorry, hobbsy- sometimes I just gotta vent!

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 4:00:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Skypilot_one

This is off topic but applies to where the thread has gone. NASA photos released yesterday show that 1/3rd of the polar ice cap has melted since 1970.

Hobbsy,

If you delete this please move it into the "special" place. People need to know.




You are not suggesting that the glow motors are contributing to this are you? Any motor has to run on some kind of power & unless you are recharging on wind or air power ect you may be using more energy than absolutely necessary.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 4:05:08 PM   
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I won't use anything but a Saito.... Im spoiled !!!

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 4:08:53 PM   
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I just started a Saito Yahoo Group in case anyone is interested...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saito4strokes/?yguid=193241926

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 4:36:38 PM   
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STG:

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This may seem like a stupid question...
I have a SA100 and I notice the throttle barrel is spring loaded to full open throttle. Why does Saito do that?

It's not a stupid question. But it is a testimony to the excellent machine work in the Saito carb.

When you work the throttle lever you'll notice the throttle barrel also moves in and out of the carb body. This is what makes the metering (low speed) needle vary the mixture as the throttle setting changes. By moving nearer and farther off the LS needle the fuel port gets larger and smaller, changing the amount of fuel delivered.

Now, since we are depending on the consistency of the variation we have to be sure it changes only with turning the barrel, and not by the barrel moving straight in or out. The spring prevents this, keeping the barrel pushed toward the lever end.

Now we get to the excellent machine work. There is a screw, often the idle speed stop, that rides in a spiral groove on the throttle barrel. As the barrel turns, this is what makes it go in and out. With the outside of the barrel and its bore in the carb body smoothly finished, there is not much friction preventing the barrel's turning. Add the well finished side of the groove for the idle stop screw, the spring is easily able to push the barrel out of the carb body, thereby seeming to be spring loaded to full throttle.

All twin needle carbs except the cheapest possible ones, have this spring. But most others are rough enough in their production that you don't see the barrels being pushed out by the anti-rattle spring.

Please note that an ordinary air bleed carb does not need this spring. Saito air bleed carbs do have one, but they aren't ordinary air bleed carbs either. They could be the subject of another discussion if anyone is interested.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 6:02:24 PM   
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Brian, I think my MDS 1.48 Diesel actually caused that, at full song turning a 16x8 three blade at 9,200 it makes some serious smoke.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 7:58:39 PM   
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I receintly purchasea userd .80 Saito on RC Universe to install in a 1/5 scale Sig Cub I am building. Any recomedations from you experts on the care and feeding of this engine?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/29/2005 8:31:05 PM   
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With any four stroke engine new to you, always check the valve clearance.

The FA-80 has a metal back plate to mount the carb, intake leakage hasn't been a problem. But if you want to turn the carb around for needle access I'd replace the o-ring where the intake pipe goes into the cylinder.

Fuel? Omega or Powermaster 15%, vary the nitro percentage if you wish but stay with a fuel that has a castor oil blended lubricant. And always run the engine dry after your last flight of the day, and use after run oil.

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