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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/11/2008 11:16:30 PM   
Hobbsy



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Status: offline 		Mike, Saito considers them flyable in 40 minutes.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 1:10:31 AM   
Michaelh


 

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Status: offline 		Nice , I just got another plane that is going to need yet another Saito .82 on it
Got some more footage of the .82, going to haft to get some of mine with the THM .

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 4:51:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gentlemen, I have read a lot of this thread, but not all of it. It seems that everyone (understandably) has a different opinion on what fuel to use. I have acquired several Saitos within the last few months, changed over from 2-Strokes (still have 2 ,OS's 46AX,.61FX) in Pylon planes . I like Byrons 15% fuel for the 2-strokes, It seems to have more power than Omega15% and runs a little cleaner. My Saitos are 1- FA 100, 1-91, 1-82, 1-56, 1-40, 1-30. The .82 is new and the rest are like new. The 100 has about 1 gallon of PM 20/20 through it. Would I be wise in running PM 20/20 in all, or would PM 4-Stroke (15% Nitro 15% Synthetic/Castor), or Byrons 4-Stroke(15% Nitro 16% Synthetic/Castor) work just as well? I do use afterun oil. Also I would like to become a member of the club.

Thanks for your help.
Steve

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 5:50:29 PM   
Hobbsy



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Status: offline 		SC, I primarily run WildCat fuel with 18% 80/20 blend but last summer I got a deal on 6 gallons of PM 15% with 18% 80/20 blend. It ran fine in my Saitos but I'm back to the WildCat simply because its easier to get.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 6:05:15 PM   
w8ye



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Any of the fuels you mentioned should be fine

I ran Omega 15% for several years then Rich's Brew 15% with the 80/20 oil blend
Now I have Wildcat Super Premium 15% with the 80/20 oil.

They all ran the same to me.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 6:14:05 PM   
Hobbsy



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Status: offline 		Hey Jim, I was going to call you today but I've got a bad sore throat, (is there a good one), and can hardly talk. Bobby has two cases of WildCat 15% Premium Extra for me, I'm going to pick it up when my Saito 1.15 comes in.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 6:59:09 PM   
w8ye



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Status: offline 		I went flying Saturday with my Son-in-law and flew the LT-40 tail dragger with a OS 52. There was like a 10 knot steady wind blowing. The OS was bad about surging at first. At least the Saito engines are not so bad about the surging. There was another guy there with a DA 50.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 7:09:13 PM   
Capt Lou


 

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Status: offline 		Scosby:

You have asked the question for which there is no absolute answer and you will get as many definitive answers as the number of answers you receieve. I have used Cool Power 15% 4Stroke, Power Master 20/20, and Cool Power 30% heli in my .65, .72, .91, and 1.00 Saito. I found that the Cool Power 15% 4 stroke does great. It is cheaper than Power Master and 30% heli and is works as effectively. My next choice is the Power Master 20/20 but it is about $10 more per gallon than Cool Powewr 15%. Lastly, the 30% heli give you more nitro but I believe the extra boost is not needed and it is priced similar to Power Master. The bottom line is go with the Cool Power 15% 4stroke.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/12/2008 8:46:21 PM   
balsaeater


 

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Status: offline 		Sorry only one Saito 180 with standard muffler


figure the next one is the 220 glow as I would need to do a serious lot of flying to make back the fuel costs of buying the gasser

below 180 I mostly do electric

blsaeater

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 5/13/2008 3:39:39 AM   
otrcman


 

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Status: offline 		I recently bought a gasket set for an 80 and found that it did not include the cylinder base gasket. When I called Horizon, they said that the cylinder base gasket is no longer used just go metal to metal. I guess that's fine with me, but I wondered if omitting the gasket doesn't increase compression slightly and would that lead to more backfires? I recall some time ago a friend had a 65 which was very bad about backfiring and spitting the prop. He eventually put a .015 shim under the cylinder base and the engine became much better behaved at very little loss of power.

Any thoughts?