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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/4/2008 6:38:01 AM   
w8ye



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Status: offline 		Lou,

Horizon is the best place for you to get your bearings

I get my rings from Frank Bowman


Frank can be reached at:
Frank Bowman 
1211 N. Allen 
Farmington, NM. 87401 
505-327-0696 (6 pm to 9pm MST weekdays) 
Email: ringmaster46@msn.com

and my Bearings from http://www.rc-bearings.com/ There are instructions on the site for changing bearings.

The cam timing is not covered but we can talk you through it.

The Saito is easy if you remove the carb and back plate - you can unfasten and remove the cylinder/piston/rod without farther complication.

The next hurdle is that the prop drive washer must be removed with a puller before you can get the crank out to change the bearings.

< Message edited by w8ye -- 7/4/2008 6:40:16 AM >

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/4/2008 4:19:49 PM   
Capt Lou


 

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Thank you for the tips. I'll start this after the engine is done cooking in antifreeze. I won't order any parts until I break down the engine to see if anything internally needs to be replaced.

Thanks again,

Lou

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/4/2008 9:42:31 PM   
Hobbsy



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Status: offline 		Jim, I resurrected my old High Compression Saito .80 today, I stole the Saito 1.00 from my Senior TeleMaster to put on a H9 Pulse XT 60 so the Tele gets the Saito .80, I ran it on 5% WildCat Premium with a Bolly 13.5x6 and it turned 10,350 rpm, it still has it after 16 years. Its a little skinned up here and there but runs well.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/5/2008 1:52:14 AM   
w8ye



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Status: offline 		I like that pulse.

That's some good figures on the 80

What happened to the '''poke berries"

My grand son-in-law and I ran a Saito 150 and a Magnum 120 down at the barn today. They started right up with a regular Dynatron

on a 12v garden tractor battery.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/5/2008 2:10:16 AM   
Chuck381


 

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I have a Saito 125, broke in well, noticing low RPM's. I put the tach on it and all I am getting is 6800 A far cry from 9 or more. I am running a 16X6 APC, 15% Cool power and OS F plug. I had the 17X4 on it before and it worked great. I banged up the Edge 540 so I fixed the plane and changed the prop for a little more spped but I can't get any high RPMs at all. I tried a smaller prop (15X6 APC) and she still flew around like a fat pig! I am going to try to turn the HS idle to 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 as I read in a seperate blog to see if it will bring the RPMS to in the 8000 range at least! I checked the valves and reset to factory settings tonight, ANy help would be appreciated! By the way I am at sea level! Thanks

Chuck

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/5/2008 2:56:00 AM   
Hobbsy



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Status: offline 		Chuck, forget the numbers of turns on the highSpeed needle, they tell you nothing, set it by how the engine runs. Put a tach on it, and start slowly leaning the High Speed needle and watch the rpms increase. At some point the engine will sound labored and the rpm will decrease slightly, immediately go rich a little. Don't rush the leaning of the needle.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/5/2008 2:58:32 AM   
Hobbsy



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Status: offline 		Jim, even Geri noticed how strong it ran, I had to show off and idle it at 1,700 just for kicks. I actually had to richen it a little to get it to idle under 2,000 rpm.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/5/2008 3:49:19 AM   
w8ye



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Sounds real good. That's nice that the 80 runs so good after this many years.

When I ran the 150 today I first had a APC 15-8 which definitely not enough prop. We then found a 16-8 on the 182. the 16-8 sounded correct. It really had a low idle with the APC 16-8. I was running Rich's Brew 15%.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/5/2008 4:08:58 AM   
Chuck381


 

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Thats what I did this evening, still only tached@6800. I checked the HS needle valve and it is approximately 1 3/4 turns out. I even tried a new batch of fuel. After I adjusted the valves I did notice that it is not a smooth.... by that I mean the plane tend to shake more BUT if it has more power I know when it is inthe air she will be just fine. Ok so I will check it out tomorrow at the field but if I am still only @ 68-7000 on the tach, what would be the next step to achieve the correct RPM's? Appreciat the help!

Chuck

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 7/5/2008 4:35:55 AM