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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/10/2005 11:28:46 PM   
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I currently own one Saito FA-30 NIB that was bought for a sport scale, crop duster look alike, ultra-lite. My previous experience with them was a very early production FA-80 (high compression) that was a real power house. I wish I still had that engine as it would pull a 6.5 lb. Cap 21 straight up for as long as there was fuel in the tank (long after it was OOS).

They are great engines. I wish I owned more of them and had the time to fly them.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/10/2005 11:58:52 PM   
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John:

I've added you as number 47.

My favorite is still the ABC version of the FA-120 engine. But every one I'm able to get now has to be bought used, current production is AAC. At the very least they seem to need bearings. They all get new valve springs as a matter of course.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/11/2005 12:06:12 AM   
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Bill,
I read through a couple of pages of this thread and saw your comments about the velocity stack. Because I'm too lazy at this very moment to check Horizon's site, do they make such an animal for my FA-30 and if so, what should I expect from installing one?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/11/2005 12:19:10 AM   
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John:

Sorry, no stacks from Saito for the small block engines. But they aren't hard to make.

I'm working up a thread with illustrations on how to knock one out, I plan on doing one for the big block engines and one for the mid block. Your small block would be the same as the mid block except for the smaller size.

Two reasons for the thread. One is that Horizon is sold out of the mid sized stacks, And two, It's an easy project to work on when it's too dark to fly.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/11/2005 12:21:58 AM   
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I look forward to seeing how to make one!

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/11/2005 3:44:21 AM   
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Hi Bill,
It has the removable cover. When I first ran the engine I saw bubbles coming from the pushrod tubes.

I won’t get a chance to work on it till Wednesday but my war bird nosed over on take off so there may be some contamination so this would be a good time to disassemble it and replace the worn parts. It has really good compression but the first time I flew it I had no problems tuning it but this last time I couldn’t really find the right spot. It used a lot of fuel too. I ran out of gas in probably 5 minutes. There seemed to be fuel dripping from the cowl so I need to check my fuel lines or it could be the pushrod o-ring.

I didn’t notice any fuel leaking anywhere else. Come to think of it one of the pushrod tube rubbers has a crack in it. I squirt after run oil through the breather tube so I know it’s fine (I didn’t do it last time because I think there is dirt in the line). The engine LOOKS lightly used but there is a lot of fuel on the engine for just 3 very short flights. You can see how the fuel just soaked up the dirt!


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/11/2005 3:47:04 AM   
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Here's my Saito 91. It is flawless so far
I had to make the fiberglass filler under the engine because it was wide open letting too much air in. I could have made it flat but I like the recessed look.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/11/2005 4:26:17 AM   
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Ranger:

If the compression is good and the bearings aren't noisy, don't take the engine apart.

If the compression is good and the bearings are noisy then don't pull the piston out of the cylinder when you take the cylinder off the case.

Bad compression and noisy bearings, then you have permission for a complete teardown.

Seeing the picture of your FA-120, it really can't be that old. It has not only the AAC cylinder, it also has the high tappet guides and the late type cast muffler just barely shows. I doubt it could be more than five years old, or around that at most.

It would not surprise me, if you showed the right side of the crank case above the mounting lug, to see "120S" in gold letters on a black background.

It's possible you're misjudging the engine. Remember the FA-120 is the runt of the litter when you get into the big blocks, it's the smallest of all, it's bigger siblings now go all the way to the FA-220, and even the FA-180 is not much bigger than the 120. So you might just be expecting more than it has to give.

Fuel burn: I see you have the intake stack on your engine. Adjusted properly you should get at least 13 minutes on a 16 ounce tank, and that's assuming full throttle the whole time. With "Average" power settings 16 ounces will give 20 minute flights. Truly, it's all in the carb adjustment.

Don't fret about the leakage from the push rod tube, you probably won't see any when you get the engine dialed in. I would suggest a close inspection of the carb and intake pipe, check carefully for any leakage there. Set the valves, my recommendation is set them both to 0.002" to get the best performance.

Then quit worrying, and fly the plane.

Bill.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/11/2005 4:40:13 AM   
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