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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 1:05:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Genesis_twin

I've got a 182TD, but it's not in a plane. Can I still be in the club?


I would have to vote YES on that
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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 1:11:43 AM   
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Why not? A Saito is a Saito, even in a boat or (shudder) an R/C car. You're number 50.

Tell us more about it. I can see it's four wheel drive and an "Off road" car, but not much else except that it's one of the larger scales. For one thing, how do you start it? The flywheel's awfully high to use a starter box.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 1:20:10 AM   
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WR, is pic #4 the big bazooka muffler like is on my 1.50?

The lower left is the one that came with the early FA-120S I had, and yes, it's the same one that came with a lot of the 150 and 180 engines in that period. I put the scale in the picture to show its length. The bottom picture in the attachment is the outlet end of it. The top and middle pictures are the baffles in the cast type.

Bill.


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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 1:41:58 AM   
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Wondered about cooling your engine. Then a closer look at your pictures showed a fan, maybe from a junk computer power supply, modified and sitting around the nose of the engine. Ingenious sir, that's what is called "An Elegant Solution."

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 2:21:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have seven Saitos at the time, more engines than airplanes. Had a bad summer. A 56 is in a Sig Rascal, two 72's looking for work, an 82 in a Senior ARF, and three 91's, one flying and 2 for planes in the house that I hope to get into the air soon. One of the 72's had bearing failure after one year of service. The bearings in a 91 failed after a couple of years but it is in an airplane that doesn't get flown much. Might be a good arguement for after run oil. The other 72 is three years old and sounds as good as new. The 82 is in the breaking in process. That thing seems to shake a lot more than the 72 that was in the Senior. Overall I have been happy with the performance of the Saito engines and you can't beat the looks.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 2:50:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		William Robison--- Why did Saito move the crankcase breather nipple from the backplate of the engine to the area at the front bearing? Seems that if you run the engine inverted, the oil won't scavenge as well, or is there enough crankcase pressure that it pushes it out anyway? It's decidedly less convenient a location than the backplate when attaching a drain line to it on an inverted installation.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 2:53:43 AM   
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Better front bearing/camshaft lubrication?

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 3:20:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		yes , you are surely in Da Club! very cool pictures ,you got a video of that bay in action,if so please post us a link!

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 3:26:04 AM   
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You will find the FA-82, even after being fully run in, will seem to shake more than the others. It's not a mechanical vibration when adjusted properly, but rather a reaction to the high torque peaks.

You are number 51.

Brian:

Two reasons for the move of the breather. First, it does force more lube to the camshaft and tappets, but I think the main reason was going to the plastic back plate. If the breather nipple were in the plastic it would be relatively fragile.

One of my experiments has the breather moved to the top of the cam box, from there to the exhaust rocker box and then across to the intake rocker box. Finally, the actual atmospheric vent is from the intake rocker box. Why? This forces the oil past the cam and tappets for better lubricatjon there, and ensures positive lubrication to the rockers and valve stems. This is mainly for upright engines, when they are inverted the rockers seem to get plenty of oil. Upright they are almost always dry.

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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO ! - 9/12/2005 4:38:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the kind words gentlemen. I don't have a video yet, hope to have one soon. I just installed the 182 and am still breaking it in. I originally had an old OS ft-120 in it but a rod cap screw fell out and trashed the rod and cap. They don't sell parts for the original FT-120 anymore. To tell the truth I was hoping it would go out so I would have an excuse to get the 182.

The truck is the CEN Genesis. Here is a quote from one of my posts in the CEN Racing forum:

"Years ago I mounted an OS FT120 to a RC car I built using a 4WD chain drive kit with a custom rail and plate chassis. The thing went l